libera/#maemo-leste/ Sunday, 2025-01-26

WizzupI updated all the images to use it, let's hope the recipe actually works :D00:06
Wizzupheh not enough space :)08:37
Wizzupbuilding again08:44
arno11failed again09:05
Wizzupyeah ipv609:12
Wizzupgoing again now09:27
arno11cool09:31
arno11Wizzup: big fail this time12:58
Wizzupha, another issue13:37
WizzupI think I'll turn off the archiving of the artifacts in jenkins13:39
Wizzupwe scp them anyway13:39
Wizzupsounds good?13:39
arno11Wizzup: ah ok, yes sounds good14:28
arno11will try the new img a bit later: i'm currently running the old img from sept and works fine apart input stuff !14:29
arno11just as a reminder: it is very very slow OOTB14:30
arno11but with all tweaks from wiki, that's a lot faster14:30
arno11it is smooth with no overclock14:31
arno11and u3 ofc14:31
arno11but i understand new users frustrations14:32
arno11it is easy to handle on n900 when you know enough about M-L, but a real pita for others14:34
arno11imo, to continue using n900 with newer debian's, we definitively need to block non essential stuff like gnome trackers, mafw, apt-worker and others by default on n900 to keep enough cpu power for the 2-3 first boots14:41
arno11and lowering transitions effects14:41
Wizzupwhich exactly tweaks?14:44
Wizzupwhich exact*14:44
WizzupI think apt-worker is important, I don't like disabling it entirely - we want it ti run every now and then14:44
arno11yes ofc, maybe once a week or month should be enough14:47
arno11but if user starts wifi on first or sec boot, the device becomes unusable for a while...14:47
arno11*tweaks from wiki14:48
Wizzupright, but apt-worker should not kick in immediatel during boot14:51
arno11it starts a soon as you connect to wifi iirc14:53
arno11but anyway, after 2 years using Leste daily on this low power device, the only real issue i see is the type of sdcard in use.15:03
Wizzupmhm15:05
Wizzupwe'll get new tracker with daedalus15:06
Wizzuphopefully it's better :)15:06
arno11apparently yes !15:06
arno11gnome tracker 2 was really buggy15:06
arno11Wizzup: back to my 'clean' install. so here is what i did on the fresh install to get good perfs: u3 card, block apt-worker, block mafw, .nomedia in $HOME, custom transitions with low radius, renice -n -8 systemui/Xorg/hildon-desktop/mce, min freq 500MHz15:43
arno11that's it i think, and it is as fast as my old install15:44
arno11will do the same this evening with the new img from today15:46
arno11i use samsung evo plus on my old install and sandisk extrem on fresh one, perfs are similar with our old driver btw15:49
Wizzupwhat does blocking mafw do when tracker is disabled, btw?15:52
arno11good question lol really don't know15:53
arno11but we already talked about that with fmg and something seems buggy with mafw15:54
arno11iirc, even with no tracker, mafw uses cpu and sometimes a lot15:55
arno11oh scratch that, it is not cpu usage but ram iirc15:58
arno11anyway, will doublecheck this evening15:59
Wizzupram yes15:59
Wizzupbut it still powers omp :)15:59
arno11i removed it atm btw16:01
arno11it uses too much cpu on n900 :(16:01
arno11even for basic mp3's16:02
arno11there is a huge diff using audacious16:02
Wizzupfreemangordon: shall we match devuan versions in our image names? currently they all say 1.0, from ascii to beowulf to chimaera and soon daedalus17:01
Wizzupbut maybe we shouldn't do that and instead make daedalus 5.017:01
Wizzup?17:01
Wizzupit's just the name of the img file, nothing else17:01
freemangordonWizzup: makes sense18:01
Wizzupok18:56
freemangordonWizzup: I have a question about connection to dbus signal20:32
freemangordonwhat is the modern way of doing it?20:32
freemangordon(I am on mafw-tracker-source BTW)20:33
Wizzupfreemangordon: sorry, don't really have a good answer @ dbus signal21:24
Wizzupmaybe gdbus has something for it - if that is used?21:24
Wizzupgreat @ mafw soruce21:24
WizzupI use OMP a lot :)21:24
freemangordontoo late (dbus): https://imgur.com/a/ASZFY5m21:27
freemangordon:p21:27
freemangordonit has issues though21:28
freemangordonI'll have to fix the wueries21:30
freemangordon*queries21:30
sicelothere's no modern way. since our stack is mostly g_*, g_dbus does make the most sense22:05
sicelothe only major difference is, do you create a proxy or use raw messages ... each option has its pros and cons, but most prefer a proxy22:06
freemangordonI used  gdbus-codegen22:08
siceloiirc that uses proxies. btw what signals you wanted to connect to? tracker's?22:11
freemangordonyes22:13
freemangordonthey dropped libtracker-control in tracker 322:13
siceloah yeah, i can see22:20
arno11i just tried the last img, works very well. the only issue i've seen is with network widget: i can't see my gsm network on the screen (it was without devel)22:39
arno11i'll have a look tomorrow22:39
arno11oh and it is still kernel 6.1 with emmc swap so sometimes the screen freezes for few sec22:42
arno11(should not be a problem with -devel)22:43
Wizzupwe should move more to stable22:46
arno11agree22:50
Wizzupalso probably to daedalus soon :)22:54
arno11:)22:54
arno11do you think i can attempt a dist-upgrade btw ? (if n900 can boot on 6.12 ofc)22:59
WizzupI don't think daedalus is on 6.12 yet (not sure)23:00
Wizzupbut yes, we can try dist-upgrade later, I wouldn't do it yet23:00
arno11ok23:01

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