libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2024-11-04

kivaKernel 6.6 in stable sdcard-image when? For xmas?13:04
Wizzupwhich device?13:05
kivaPinephone?13:06
uvos__currently as far as i am aware we lack a maintainer for the pinephone kernel13:09
uvos__the omap devices are all on 6.6 already13:09
kivaHas droid4 sdcard image in here it: https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/droid4/13:10
uvos__no you would have to update to devel after installing13:12
uvos__but promoting this is something that should happen very soon13:13
uvos__the pinephone on the other hand needs someone to rebase the kernel, or maybe just steal a never kernel from pmos or something13:14
uvos__btw you can check here13:14
uvos__https://maedevu.maemo.org/pkgweb/search?q=linux13:14
Wizzupyes, I think rafael2k has been busy13:14
Wizzupwe also should make the pinephone pro work13:14
uvos__the images contain Packages found in chimaera:13:14
Wizzupsomeone made it work and then left I think13:14
uvos__devel has Packages found in chimaera-devel:13:15
uvos__Wizzup: maybe promote the kernel soon? i thought you did already13:15
uvos__are there any outstanding issues im not aware of?13:15
Wizzupuvos__: let's do it13:22
WizzupI have been working 16 hour days sinxe oct 10 or so13:22
Wizzupincluding weekends, so I had no time/energy13:22
Wizzupbut it's getting better now13:22
uvos__Wizzup: great!13:23
xmnThat is tough Wizzup. Hopefully it continues to ease up back to normal.13:24
arno11Wizzup: btw if you promote 6.6 and build new imgs, hope gconf2 and dbus errors we got in last stable imgs (when upgrading to devel) disappear.14:30
WizzupI think those errors appeared only once, no?14:31
arno11not sure what happened14:31
arno11last time i tried a recent img it was really buggy14:32
arno11but i don't remember exactly14:32
arno11it happens to sicelo as well iirc14:33
arno11and to some guys from tmo14:33
arno11*i mean, the gconf and dbus error14:34
dsc_arno11: did you try this pidgin-chatgpt14:35
arno11not yet, will try soon14:36
arno11and let you know14:36
arno11dsc_: the plugin itself works fine :) so it should be trivial to make it working in conversations14:55
dsc_so ehh14:56
arno11however, it works only for 4-5 requests then reset the chat apparently14:56
dsc_idk anything about the pidgin stuff14:56
arno11the plugin is a purple plugin14:56
dsc_doesnt it not then automatically work via purple, yeah14:56
arno11so it should work in converstions using mctool14:57
dsc_ah ok14:57
dsc_so it only needs the gtk dialog for API key14:57
arno11yup14:57
arno11i'll try to add it through mctool (but i maybe need a reboot)14:58
arno11hmm i don't know which manager it uses15:10
dsc_no idea15:19
arno11anyway the plugin seems to have limited capacity in term of context saving (giving a kind of memory to chatgpt)16:13
arno11after 4 or 5 requests, it only remembers the first one16:14
arno11i don't encounter this problem in bash since i found a way to add as many contexts as i need16:22
dsc_arno11: this project seems to be 1 week old16:28
dsc_so maybe still in development16:28
arno11yes indeed16:28
freemangordonWizzup: I think I fixed osso-abook in regards to attribute names/ vcard field, however, it seems sphone abook plugin does a mess in rtcomel DB17:38
Wizzuphmm17:39
freemangordonwill push to -devel later on17:39
inky> currently as far as i am aware we lack a maintainer for the pinephone kernel18:15
inky>18:15
inky> the omap devices are all on 6.6 already18:15
inkyi built 6.11 on pinephone/gentoo so i can try to do the same for maemo.18:15
inkyhttps://justsoup321.codeberg.page/posts/lomiri-the-final-frontier/18:15
inkyi guess hildon is easier to maintain, it stands alone, all or most of the services are started by xsession scripts.18:18
arno11sicelo: btw something to improve @als/mce is the minimum level of backlight: a way too high on n900 (50% iirc). not ideal in the dark. 5-10% is enough imo. i personaly use 2%20:09
arno11and it is not ideal for power draw20:11
arno11and not progressive enough20:11
uvosarno11: you can configue the brighness levels vs lux values however you want in mce.ini20:18
uvoshowever the default is way lower than 50%20:18
arno11ok for mce.ini but the minimum is really around 50%20:20
sicelosomeone just shared (on telegram) a video of Leste running on xiaomi prime 4 with the pmOS kernel. it's SW rendered for now, but I guess they'll get GPU playing along soon20:20
uvosarno11: no its 2020:20
sicelowhat % are those BTW?20:20
uvosyes20:21
uvosnote that mce never lowers the brigtness while the display is on20:21
uvosit only raises it20:21
uvosunless you set NoAlsLowering to 020:21
arno11so i'm pretty sure something keeps minimum value too high. let me check again20:22
siceloAnyway, my als aim was to extract the correct calibration from cal on the n900, which should hopefully result in more accurate lux readings20:22
uvossicelo: ok20:22
uvosrn mce dose scale the als valuse20:22
uvosbut really this isent mces job20:23
uvossysfs has a scale file that udev reads, if you cant set the scale file correctly in dts you should set the udev proparty20:23
uvosiio-s-p then scales the sensor based on that20:24
arno11uvos: i just doublecheck and default minimum real value is 5120:24
siceloiio-s-p doesn't really do justice to n900's als - it reports two separate channels, but iio-s-p, as a generalization application, tried to represent a20:24
siceloall in one way20:24
uvosi cant parse that sentance20:24
sicelomine or arno11 's?20:25
uvosyours20:25
uvosarno11: cover the sensor, check monitor-sensor to see that it reports 0 lux20:26
uvosclick on the the lowest profile in the display settings app20:26
uvosturn off the display20:26
uvosturn on the display20:26
arno11ok20:26
siceloiio-s-p expects one sysfs node for the als. n900's als reports two - they work differently. hence you'll see in older mce code that there was calib0 and calib1 properties, for example20:27
uvossicelo: ok what makes them different?20:27
uvossicelo: different angles?20:27
sicelothe one is simply sensitive to normal light, and the other to light & ir20:28
arno11uvos: it always report 020:28
uvosarno11: then its broken20:28
siceloAnyway, I don't have time to work on it for the time being, but I think I can do something about it in future20:28
uvosthis will indeed cause mce to use 5020:28
uvossicelo: anyhow if something needs to be fixed about it needs to be fixed in iio-s-p, mce is a consumer of the als data with no external sensor interfaces, so any other application needs the values to be correct too20:29
uvosi gues a iio-s-p maybe should read a composit of both values or something20:29
uvossicelo: i presume your als works fine?20:29
uvosie arno11 has hw failure?20:29
siceloarno11, the als is working ... I'm guessing it's night there too, so yes lux reading will mostly be 020:29
arno11ok20:30
arno11let me try next to a light20:30
arno11yes indeed it works20:31
uvosok anyhow20:31
uvosif you do the above you should get 20%20:31
uvosif you dont i gues something is broken on your device20:31
uvosor n900 genrally20:31
uvossince it works fine on d420:31
arno11default minimum value is still 5120:32
uvoswhat do you mean by "default"20:32
uvosthe lowest brightness profile ie 1 bar20:32
uvosis the one that should have 20% at zero lux20:32
arno11with one bar it is 51%20:32
uvoswhen the display is turned on at 0 lux that is20:33
uvoswhere are you reading that from?20:33
arno11there is a huge diff if i set it @20% by hand20:33
arno11uvos: from /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness20:34
uvosok20:34
arno11*20% by hand @0 lux20:35
uvos?? if you set it by hand obv the lux wont matter20:35
arno11so something seems wrong on leste n900 in general, fremantle backlight is fine on my device20:35
arno11uvos: yes indeed20:36
uvosanyhow i gues it could be broken somehow, maybe sicleo can confirm it20:36
arno11yes maybe20:36
uvosi think mce prints what it sets the brigtness too20:36
uvosif you run it with -v -v20:36
uvosie stop mce20:36
uvosand then start it as root (sudo su -)20:36
uvoswith mce -v -v20:36
uvosand see what it prints when you switch brigness profiles20:37
uvosand change the lux20:37
arno11ok20:37
uvosturning off no als lowering will help with debuging20:37
uvossince the brigness will then directly follow lux20:37
siceloarno11: on fremantle it's using the full capabilities of the als. iio-s-p somewhat averages the separate results into one, so yeah, the behavior will not be comparable. plus fremantle uses proper calibration values (I assume, measure somehow from factory ' haven't yet tested if the calibration values are similar across devices, although I doubt)20:38
uvossicelo: dosnet matter20:38
uvosif he sees 0 lux it should choose the lowest level20:38
uvosthe sensor reading is not the issue here20:39
uvossicelo: droid4 android has its callibration values fixed in dts20:39
siceloI'm not necessarily answering the particular % stuff (I don't even know where the % being referred to are found) :-D20:39
uvosi dont think theres mutch variation really20:39
uvosoh wait20:40
uvosarno11: its fine20:40
uvosyour reading /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness20:40
uvosthats wrong20:40
uvos /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness is not in %20:40
uvosits some arbitary value20:40
uvoshow you scale the value to get % is given by the other sysfs files20:41
uvos(brigtness_steps or so iirc)20:41
sicelo20/25520:41
uvoson d4 its out of 1620:41
uvosanyhow 51/255 = 0.220:41
uvosso its working exactly as intended20:41
uvosif thats to bright for you just change the values in mce.ini20:42
uvosthose ARE in %20:42
arno11ok20:42
arno11but yeah a way to high for me :P20:42
uvosif there is some consensus that its way to high we can change it in n900's specific mce.ini20:43
uvosmce.ini.d/SOMETHING-n900.ini20:43
uvosotherwise this is working as intenden20:43
uvosd20:43
arno11ok20:43
uvosif 20 in /sys/class/backlight/acx565akm/brightness you should set the lowest brightness in your 99-user.ini to 820:44
uvos*if 20 is what you like20:45
arno11ok thx20:45
siceloarno11: BTW with fremantle you use kernel-power or the vanilla Nokia kernel?21:18
arno11sicelo: i use kernel power 5321:23
arno11working fine @1GHz :P21:23
sicelo:-)21:24
arno11btw opera mini still works fine on it, wonder if it could not be the solution for leste21:25
arno11at least a usable solution21:25
arno11for n900 ofc21:26
arno11but it needs phoneME to work well21:26
arno11not foss iirc21:27
sicelommm. it isn't?21:30
sicelothere's some j2me thing that should presumably work on modern linux. Will see if I still have its  url. never tried it though21:30
arno11we can use microemulator but it is a way slower than phoneME21:34
arno11iirc opera mini works with microemulator but it is not user-friendly an slow on n90021:36
arno11with phoneME on fremantle, even google streetview works fine21:36
arno11*btw21:36
arno11ah, i remember now: phoneME is still on gh but difficult to compile (at least for me)21:40
sicelothere's something else besides microemulator. maybe freej2me?21:41
* sicelo turns PC on to see what it was21:41
arno11ok21:41
arno11freej2me works only for games iirc21:43
siceloah21:46
arno11https://github.com/magicus/phoneME21:52
sicelowent back to dailying my D4 since the weekend. experienced https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/753, which i don't think is PEBKAC22:27
sicelolooks like sphone should use the services of hildon-plugins-notify-sv perhaps? or profiled ...22:28
uvossicelo: no22:39
uvosthis is simply unimplemented22:39
uvoswe have no "rining" volume22:39
uvosthe setting in profiled goes no where22:39
uvosthe correct sollution is to have ucm role for this (and alarm)22:39
uvoson fremantle there is a special sink that is used for this22:40
uvosagain essentally the same thing as a ucm profile achived though different means22:40
uvosbut yeah this has nothing to do with sphone per say22:41
sicelosure, doesn't matter to me how exactly it's implemented (i think the one in profile goes through nsv from a quick check) ... anyway, the problem is real and *some* solution would be appreciated22:42
uvosnsv reads it22:42
uvosbut its pointless22:42
uvosas it just outputs though the regular hifi sink22:42
uvoswhich could be muted or whatever22:42
sicelohttps://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-plugins-notify-sv/blob/master/lib/ringtone.c#L6222:44
sicelolooks to me Like it actually does set a volume22:44
uvosyes, but as metioned this is pointless22:44
sicelono idea what you mean. anyway, my point is - as things stand currently, it's easy to miss calls Unintentionally. i don't particularly care about profile or nsv per se, but just saying reducing media playback volume should not also reduce ringing volume.22:46
uvossure22:46
uvosthats not question22:47
uvosbut the audio setup is not to the point where this is possible22:47
uvoswe need to do more pa work for it to happen22:47
inkysicelo, how do you feel daily using it?23:25
inkyi do it but without phone calls, and with pidgin and email.23:25
siceloit's fine. it's not the first time i daily it ... just I need a battery. only gripe i have is non-working USSD.23:36

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