| Wizzup | :) | 00:37 |
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| unic0rn | looks like completely discharged droid needs a dumb charger. tried imac and laptop with 2 different cables and it just ignored it | 00:46 |
| unic0rn | kickstarted it with some old samsung charger, now it charges from the laptop as it should. https://i.imgur.com/YlMwBil.png will try not to break it in the weekend | 00:47 |
| Wizzup | it depends on whether kexecboot is installed as well | 00:47 |
| Wizzup | great! | 00:47 |
| Wizzup | uvos: ok, I think I have a -mostly- working xt912 image | 01:27 |
| Wizzup | just /boot/boot/boot.cfg somehow is not there but boot.cfg.leste is | 01:28 |
| sicelo | unic0rn: yup. i also found old N900 charger (1A) works better than a modern Samsung charger (2A or greater) | 07:30 |
| sicelo | but also charging depleted device from a computer's USB port doesn't really work, because you can't mess with the data pins then | 07:31 |
| uvos__ | "<Wizzup> it depends on whether kexecboot is installed as well" no it dose not, mbm dosent boot below 3.1 or so volts if the d+ d- arnt tied together like on a dumb charger, this is the case regardless of kexecboot | 11:11 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: good, but the image is ofc not that usefull yet untill the display works properly | 11:12 |
| Wizzup | yup, but I'm just trying to tackle anything I can now for the nlnet stuff | 12:09 |
| Wizzup | since the razr is really neat hw wise | 12:09 |
| Wizzup | I also have a xt910 image if you want to test it | 12:20 |
| unic0rn | before I'll forget, is a sim card needed for droid 4? I recall seeing such a note under power usage | 12:50 |
| unic0rn | how's the battery drain anyway? | 12:51 |
| dsc_ | if the battery is healthy its pretty good | 12:55 |
| dsc_ | "pretty good" being my non scientific answer :P | 12:56 |
| Wizzup | so yeah, this really depends on the battery | 12:56 |
| Wizzup | I have a battery that freemangordon helped me make | 12:57 |
| Wizzup | based on a e960 battery, using parts of the droid battery | 12:57 |
| Wizzup | I get 2+ days idle | 12:57 |
| Wizzup | but this other droid4 I have with a stock weak battery gets like 17 hours | 12:57 |
| Wizzup | I basically don't worry about my d4 battery life during the day/night and usually charge it in the morning | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | it's been my trusty alarm for 1+ year now | 13:00 |
| uvos__ | no sim power usage problem is sloved i think | 13:01 |
| uvos__ | should be anyhow | 13:01 |
| uvos__ | you need to cfun=0 the modem when there is no sim and i think the modem deamon fmg wrote dose this | 13:01 |
| uvos__ | battey life is ok, i get 1 day usually, but it drops like a stone if you use the device | 13:02 |
| arno11 | dsc_: btw ram usage is still stable after 48 hours on my device | 13:07 |
| unic0rn | thanks for all the info so far :) the battery should be more or less ok, dropped like 3% from 90% in 8-9h of idle time under android, airplane mode though | 13:07 |
| dsc_ | arno11: thanks for testing :) got another commit coming later today | 13:08 |
| dsc_ | arno11: whats your RAM usage? | 13:09 |
| arno11 | dsc_: really cool (commit) | 13:09 |
| arno11 | ram usage is around 100MB free/available (idle) | 13:10 |
| arno11 | when i use conversations, ofc ram usage is a bit heavy but still back to normal when i close it | 13:11 |
| dsc_ | maybe after this commit its 70MB idle | 13:13 |
| dsc_ | lets see | 13:13 |
| arno11 | amazing | 13:13 |
| arno11 | yep | 13:13 |
| arno11 | it should help N900's a lot | 13:14 |
| uvos__ | unic0rn: android in idle + airplane mode uses about 10% of the power of leste | 13:24 |
| arno11 | uvos__: btw what is D4 idle current draw actually ? (just to compare with n900) | 13:30 |
| uvos__ | 30ish mW in leste | 13:31 |
| uvos__ | er mA | 13:31 |
| uvos__ | 30mA or there about | 13:31 |
| arno11 | not bad | 13:31 |
| uvos__ | i mean compared to android its still pretty terrible | 13:32 |
| uvos__ | but yeah its not _that_ bad | 13:32 |
| arno11 | yes indeed | 13:32 |
| uvos__ | bionic dose a bit better for some reason | 13:34 |
| uvos__ | 25mA or so | 13:34 |
| arno11 | ok (btw on N900, i got 39-43 modem OFF and 47-52 modem ON) | 13:35 |
| arno11 | on bionic, the kernel config is different, or ? | 13:36 |
| uvos__ | no its the same | 13:36 |
| uvos__ | the hw just uses less power for whatever reason | 13:36 |
| uvos__ | android also uses les | 13:36 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 13:37 |
| uvos__ | its a bit strange since they are so simmilar | 13:37 |
| arno11 | yes indeed | 13:37 |
| uvos__ | dunno where the 5ma are going on d4 | 13:37 |
| arno11 | maybe an additional sensor ? | 13:38 |
| uvos__ | bionic has an addiitional sensor chip | 13:38 |
| uvos__ | a seperate magnetometer chip | 13:38 |
| uvos__ | so it has more mouths to feed not less :P | 13:38 |
| arno11 | yep lol | 13:38 |
| uvos__ | ah no its a gyro not a maenetometer | 13:40 |
| uvos__ | both d4 and bionic have magn. | 13:40 |
| uvos__ | but only bionic has a gyro on a seperate chip | 13:40 |
| uvos__ | anyhow still bionic has more sensors | 13:40 |
| arno11 | ok | 13:41 |
| arno11 | anyway i wonder if main blockers are similar (D4, N900, Bionic) | 13:47 |
| arno11 | *RET / OFF blockers | 13:48 |
| uvos__ | nothing actively blocks ret in idle on d4/bionic (ie it works) | 13:50 |
| uvos__ | and the kernel dosent support off mode at all for omap4 | 13:50 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 13:51 |
| uvos__ | the last bit is probubly the main culprit for androids better performance | 13:51 |
| uvos__ | since it spends quite a bit of time in off | 13:51 |
| unic0rn | https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/1316844884-21700-11-git-send-email-santosh.shilimkar@ti.com/ related? | 15:35 |
| Wizzup | in a way, but off mode is much more complicated - there's a lot of things on driver level too iirc | 16:00 |
| Wizzup | uvos: ok yes the boot.cfg install doesn't work in the image generation | 16:22 |
| Wizzup | I confirmed the droid4 one is different too | 16:22 |
| dsc_ | https://github.com/maemo-leste/conversations/commit/04192a07451e7da84aa701021523e00c6c467d85 | 17:17 |
| dsc_ | https://plak.infrapuin.nl/selif/8mlwhgfo.png | 17:18 |
| dsc_ | with 1 chat window opened it goes to 57mb | 17:19 |
| dsc_ | granted, my rtcom database is near-empty | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | uvos: think I solved the boot issue | 17:22 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: nice | 17:24 |
| Wizzup | do we support c++20? | 17:24 |
| dsc_ | yes | 17:25 |
| dsc_ | conversations has been c++20 since 3 weeks hehe | 17:26 |
| Wizzup | okay cool | 17:26 |
| dsc_ | but this seems to save a lot of mem, like 50mb | 17:27 |
| dsc_ | and then opening a chat window adds 10mb | 17:27 |
| Wizzup | interesting, so we still have some qml stuff in there, but the overview one was more memory heavy than the chat windows? | 17:27 |
| dsc_ | on close, it actually releases that 10mb | 17:27 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: I am a bit puzzled yeah | 17:28 |
| Wizzup | yeah we don't close the main window in conversations right, we just hide it | 17:28 |
| Wizzup | so that could not be freed | 17:28 |
| Wizzup | unless you actually closed the window rather than hide | 17:28 |
| dsc_ | no, I destroyed the QML engine on mainwindow hide | 17:28 |
| Wizzup | maybe I remember wrong | 17:28 |
| Wizzup | ok | 17:28 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: could you check if your overview looks ok and then maybe make a new tag? | 17:41 |
| dsc_ | + build | 17:41 |
| dsc_ | brb | 17:42 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | let me build on my d4 | 20:32 |
| d4dsc | nvm got 2 small fixes still | 20:38 |
| d4dsc | but you can still test | 20:38 |
| Wizzup | ok, building atm | 20:39 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: vm and nr_request stuff seems to work fine, i've been able to download a PSX game from the web and unzip the img from the N900 with no troubles and in a couple of min ! ofc the device was slowing down but not much, still able to use it at the same time (with around 90MB of free ram) | 22:49 |
| arno11 | with boost 720 | 22:49 |
| arno11 | i used links2 to download | 22:52 |
| arno11 | and ofc the unzipped game works (758MB) | 22:56 |
| Wizzup | arno11: sweet, would be nice to have the ps emulate packaged | 23:02 |
| Wizzup | uvos: I am going to modify the kexecboot mapphone config stuff to make /boot/boot if it doesn't exist | 23:02 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: ah yes indeed, but the problem is that the emulator is only D4 and N900 friendly | 23:03 |
| Wizzup | what do you mean? | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | needs a physical keyboard? | 23:04 |
| arno11 | yep | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | then just put that in the description :) | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | most of our users use the n900 or d4 anyway | 23:04 |
| arno11 | yes indeed | 23:04 |
| arno11 | there is picodrive and drnoksnes as well | 23:06 |
| arno11 | drnoksnes needs additional repo from android-808 iirc | 23:07 |
| arno11 | *pkg from repo | 23:07 |
| arno11 | there are missing in Leste repos (but they build fine) | 23:08 |
| arno11 | picodrive doesn't need any specific stuff iirc | 23:09 |
| arno11 | anyway i'll doublecheck | 23:09 |
| Wizzup | just let me know, I can help this weekend | 23:15 |
| arno11 | ah ok cool, ty | 23:16 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: can I force push to master for a small change or just a commit | 23:19 |
| dsc_ | or should I do a commit* | 23:20 |
| dsc_ | ill commit | 23:23 |
| Wizzup | pls commit | 23:24 |
| Wizzup | unless you need to wipe out a password or something | 23:24 |
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