| freemangordon | Wizzup: how do you think, do we still have upstream for telepahty? | 07:50 |
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| Wizzup | I was planning to email the tp mailing list once we have it working well enough and see what people say | 07:51 |
| freemangordon | I joined #telepathy here, there are few people in the room | 07:51 |
| freemangordon | lets see if they have anything in common with tp :) | 07:52 |
| freemangordon | because I want my work on haze upstreamed | 07:52 |
| freemangordon | (the planned work) | 07:52 |
| Wizzup | nlnet has also said that if tp upstream isn't active, that maybe we could become upstream | 07:52 |
| Wizzup | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/ | 07:52 |
| Wizzup | I guess parts of fdo are still down | 07:53 |
| freemangordon | yeah, does not look very active | 07:53 |
| freemangordon | most are up though | 07:53 |
| freemangordon | does nlnet offer budget if we become TP upstream? | 07:54 |
| Wizzup | there might be some | 07:54 |
| Wizzup | I'm waiting for us ot be 'ready enough' with the tp work, so sphone/conversations working well, integrated in maemo, which is very close I think | 07:54 |
| freemangordon | like, if we have, we may ask som of the ex-tp upstream guys to join | 07:54 |
| Wizzup | maybe, but they don't pay top salary for sure, so don't know if posssible | 07:55 |
| freemangordon | so, you think I shall hold my horses with tp-haze MUC chats? | 07:55 |
| Wizzup | are you sure haze doesn't do channels? | 07:55 |
| freemangordon | 'multi-user' | 07:55 |
| Wizzup | I think I loaded the slack purple plugin and I thought it worked | 07:55 |
| Wizzup | but I might be confusing it with bitlbee | 07:55 |
| freemangordon | it does, but IM (person-to-person) only | 07:55 |
| Wizzup | hm | 07:56 |
| Wizzup | well, I don't think haze muc is urgent, but if you like to work on it, go for it :) | 07:56 |
| Wizzup | I would definitely love it personally | 07:56 |
| Wizzup | https://wizzup.org/slack-pidgin.png | 07:57 |
| Wizzup | so this was working for sure | 07:57 |
| Wizzup | that is a channel with people | 07:57 |
| Wizzup | oh, in pidgin :D | 07:57 |
| Wizzup | heh | 07:57 |
| Wizzup | okay | 07:57 |
| freemangordon | right :) | 07:57 |
| freemangordon | not in TP | 07:58 |
| freemangordon | facebook group chat works in pidgin | 07:58 |
| freemangordon | but not in tp | 07:58 |
| Wizzup | I think the other thing you mentioned, improving phone cpa and the connui cellular libs is also very useful, and there is qt5 vkb | 07:58 |
| Wizzup | I see | 07:58 |
| Wizzup | I think just pick whichever :D | 07:58 |
| freemangordon | and having that working is a big selling point IMO | 07:58 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 07:58 |
| freemangordon | I know, but me personally would prefer to have working FB chats when we have conversations :) | 07:59 |
| Wizzup | I think it's very useful | 07:59 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 07:59 |
| freemangordon | not only FB will gain from that | 08:00 |
| Wizzup | we'll also eventually have to figure out how to add new tp interfaces and generate glib/qt code for them | 08:00 |
| Wizzup | (for OMEMO for example, I think) | 08:00 |
| freemangordon | it is auto-generated :) | 08:00 |
| freemangordon | from interface definition, IIUC | 08:00 |
| Wizzup | still have to figure it out :D | 08:00 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 08:00 |
| freemangordon | but lets first reach that point | 08:00 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 08:00 |
| freemangordon | ok, I will pull latest haze code and will start working on it | 08:01 |
| freemangordon | perhaps you could write to TP ML in the meanwhile | 08:01 |
| Wizzup | I would like to write them in the new year when we have something to show off | 08:03 |
| Wizzup | like, 'we have tp working well here and plan to stick to it' | 08:04 |
| freemangordon | ok | 08:04 |
| Wizzup | I have to go afk soon | 08:04 |
| freemangordon | ok | 08:05 |
| freemangordon | hmm, actually the latest haze release is from 3 years ago | 08:14 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: audio and video links received in conversations through fb messenger work (like bitlbee in fact), we just need a way to open them directly in conversations :) | 11:33 |
| arno11 | but pictures don't show any link (and it was the same with bitlbee iirc) | 11:34 |
| arno11 | actually to play links, the trick is to export chat, copy the link in the file and open it with mplayer | 11:36 |
| arno11 | and it works | 11:37 |
| arno11 | audio quality is really good btw, video is low res | 11:42 |
| arno11 | bbl | 11:42 |
| freemangordon | I guess this is a matter of UI (showing pictures) | 11:42 |
| Wizzup | on the tp topic there are also various unmerged pull requests for gabble/wocky | 13:10 |
| freemangordon | gabble is gmail? | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | umm... gtalk | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | or whatever it was called | 13:35 |
| Wizzup | xmpp | 13:36 |
| Wizzup | jabber | 13:36 |
| Wizzup | but yes, gtalk as well probably, since I think that is just xmpp | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but it is no more, they stopped the servers | 13:37 |
| Wizzup | well, xmpp is not dead, it's very alive and kicking | 13:40 |
| Wizzup | I do audio and video calls with people using my self hosted server and dino (xmpp client for desktop), to their smartphones using a foss app for xmpp | 13:40 |
| Wizzup | so it seems like a great fit imo | 13:40 |
| Wizzup | norayr: are there any updates to amazfish that we can push? I have a pinetime here | 13:49 |
| norayr | there is a new release which i didn't package. | 13:51 |
| norayr | but pinetime should work with the current almost last release. | 13:51 |
| norayr | (norayr is also inky also maxwelld) | 13:52 |
| maxwelld | test | 13:55 |
| maxwelld | yes that's me. | 13:55 |
| Wizzup | ok | 13:57 |
| norayr | let me know if it works. i tested it with other watch, and it only worked on pinephone, not on d4. | 13:59 |
| Wizzup | right | 13:59 |
| Wizzup | the d4 might not have the right bt hw | 13:59 |
| Wizzup | I think uvos pointed this out at some point as well | 14:00 |
| norayr | and make sure to read the wiki. because it is indeed hard to use that app. (: | 14:00 |
| norayr | at least with my amazfish bip which is the first watch it actually started to support. | 14:01 |
| Wizzup | maemo wiki, or another wiki? | 14:02 |
| uvos | Wizzup: so the wl1285c is a bluetooth 3.0 raido, and the d4 was never advertised with bluetooth low energy support. The 1285c is a special custom variant presumably made to order for motorola buuuut... | 14:14 |
| uvos | https://www.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt037/swpt037.pdf?ts=1703164059354&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fduckduckgo.com%252F | 14:14 |
| uvos | check this out | 14:14 |
| uvos | this is an even older part and ti claims: "Software-upgradable for ANT & Bluetooth low energy (BLE)" | 14:15 |
| uvos | so now i wonder if we can make 1285c also do ble | 14:15 |
| uvos | or if it should even work allready maybe | 14:15 |
| bencoh | if it has support for ble and we already have working bt, then I'd say it should work | 14:16 |
| bencoh | one could try with hcitool lescan for instance | 14:16 |
| uvos | well it wasend advertised as sutch | 14:16 |
| bencoh | if it wasn't advertised as such then it's a different question | 14:16 |
| uvos | but i gues the 127x and 128x are software upgrableto do it | 14:16 |
| bencoh | but testing should be rather straightforward | 14:16 |
| uvos | yeah | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | sounds like a fun experiment :) | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | is there any doc on how to do this? | 14:19 |
| uvos | bencoh is just suggesting to use hcitool to scan for ble devices | 14:20 |
| uvos | obv that will show some if it already works | 14:20 |
| Wizzup | that's a good start | 14:20 |
| uvos | so no documentation required for that | 14:20 |
| bencoh | yeah, just 'hcitool lescan' | 14:20 |
| uvos | other than that if it dosent allready work presumably we need to find firmware to load that enables the feature, and look at the kernel driver | 14:21 |
| bencoh | (I have no d4 here right no) | 14:21 |
| bencoh | (now*) | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | blasphemy | 14:21 |
| uvos | i dont have a single ble client device so im not a good candate | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | I haven't ever connected my pinetime to anything, so I don't know how to get it to show itself, but I'll try | 14:22 |
| uvos | you will probubly want to bluetoothctl instead, not sure if hcitool is still around (seams not in arch) | 14:22 |
| Wizzup | well, it'd be on leste so we'll have hcitool I think | 14:23 |
| uvos | not sure but bluetoothctl you have for sure | 14:23 |
| Wizzup | ok | 14:23 |
| uvos | its "scan le" there | 14:23 |
| Wizzup | I have to leave the train in a minute, but I will try to check some time soon | 14:23 |
| Wizzup | btw there might just be LE devices around you from other people that might show up | 14:24 |
| Wizzup | depending on where you are I guess | 14:24 |
| uvos | visible ble devices are pretty unlikly in a small german village | 14:24 |
| Wizzup | :) | 14:24 |
| Wizzup | I had expected the cows to be equipped with ble sensors | 14:25 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: the train should be a good place to try that, with lots of people there :> | 14:36 |
| bencoh | (well, I guess you already left the train) | 14:36 |
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