| peterrooney | paculino: not typical for the DE/WM. but the display manager (controlling logins) usually root. I can't imagine that part not being root. | 00:17 |
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| rrq | well Xorg runs as non-root nowadays, with seatd or logind to mediate access to input device and VT handling | 00:36 |
| rrq | I don't know much about Wayland | 00:37 |
| rrq | though "Wayland" isn't a thing, but rather some number of implementations | 00:37 |
| freaxeh | what ftp server should I install for secure/crc checked and encrypted and fast (10Gbit ethernet) file transfers? | 07:46 |
| freaxeh | vsftpd? | 07:46 |
| gnarface | good luck getting anything encrypted to go that fast... | 07:47 |
| gnarface | i don't think it's a realistic goal | 07:47 |
| freaxeh | ok so unencrypted then | 07:48 |
| gnarface | i think that if you care about it being secure, you use sshfs, and if you care about speed you use nfs and everything else will fail you at both goals | 07:48 |
| freaxeh | its only a lan | 07:48 |
| freaxeh | is it good practice to still use standard ftp? or should I just use nfs/do you mean samba? | 07:49 |
| gnarface | no, regular ftp isn't gonna gain you anything in security over sshfs or speed over nfs | 07:50 |
| freaxeh | ok cool thanks | 07:50 |
| gnarface | and no, i don't mean samba, that's a perfect example of something that will fail you at both goals (it will be as slow as sshfs but also insecure) | 07:50 |
| onefang | NFS and Samba are completely different protocols. | 07:50 |
| freaxeh | ah right | 07:50 |
| gnarface | basically anything encrypted will be cpu bound at some speed well below 10GB (probably below 100mbit to be honest) | 07:51 |
| gnarface | samba is also cpu bound but its security is laughable | 07:51 |
| gnarface | nfs also has completely laughable security but it's not pretending otherwise, and will probably at least be able to saturate the disk write speed (which is most likely well below 10GB too) | 07:52 |
| freaxeh | understood | 07:52 |
| freaxeh2 | is there such a thing as a dual pane file manager for GUI usage? | 09:21 |
| freaxeh2 | like midnight commander | 09:21 |
| onefang | I recall that there is, but I just use mc, so can't recall their names. | 09:33 |
| freaxeh2 | ty | 09:36 |
| nomia | freaxeh2: Have you checked wikipedia? | 10:29 |
| nomia | I think there's a page with lots of file managers. | 10:29 |
| freaxeh | not yet will do so in a few minutes | 10:29 |
| freaxeh | ty | 10:29 |
| nomia | yw | 10:30 |
| fsmithred | freaxeh, try xfe | 10:47 |
| freaxeh | ok | 10:48 |
| freaxeh | ty | 10:48 |
| fsmithred | you might already have it installed | 10:48 |
| fsmithred | krusader if you're in kde | 10:49 |
| fsmithred | if that still exists | 10:50 |
| freaxeh2 | xfe is nice ty | 10:59 |
| freaxeh2 | had to install it tho | 11:00 |
| fsmithred | here's a screenshot of xfe using a whole 9mb ram - https://get.refracta.org/files/misc/screenshot_EEE.png | 11:07 |
| freaxeh | wow | 11:10 |
| fsmithred | also check out ranger for a file manager that works in console or terminal. I like that the right pane shows you some content when a file is highlighted in the left pane. | 11:16 |
| * onefang wonders if they can handle JPEG 2000? I'm pissed at Debian removing support for that from most graphics programs. | 11:25 | |
| fsmithred | onefang, yes I can see a jp2 file in feh opened from xfe | 11:35 |
| onefang | It didn't show them to me when I tried it just now. About to try krusader. | 11:36 |
| onefang | OK, feh with xfe works. One image at a time. I still want to see whole directories of JPEG 2000 images at a time. I have thousands of them, coz OpenSim / Second Life uses them for all textures. | 11:40 |
| fsmithred | geeqie shows them and has some file management tools (copy, move...) | 11:43 |
| onefang | Not showing them here. | 11:46 |
| onefang | That's one I used to use, when it DID show them. | 11:46 |
| fsmithred | oh, I'm in chimaera right now | 11:48 |
| onefang | Ah I'm on Daedalus. | 11:50 |
| fsmithred | in excalibur, mupdf shows jp2 but xpdf does not | 11:55 |
| fsmithred | and lximage-qt does not | 11:56 |
| onefang | So sounds like JPEG 2000 support is still missing then. At least GIMP still works with them here. | 11:57 |
| onefang | Never thought of trying a PDF viewer though. lol | 11:58 |
| onefang | mupdf working here as well. | 12:00 |
| onefang | My usual PDF reader can't, but can show PNGs. | 12:01 |
| onefang | Daedalus geeqie even depends on the openjp2 libarary. Pffft | 12:05 |
| onefang | Oh well, next time I need it, I'll just recompile my own versions and put JPEG 2000 back. Don't need it now. | 12:12 |
| freaxeh | help | 14:30 |
| freaxeh | got serious issues with my raid array | 14:30 |
| freaxeh | i did a shutdown during a write event i think | 14:37 |
| freaxeh | nevermind | 14:43 |
| freaxeh | the problem is I think is that nfs is accessing /mnt/md0 but luks is also trying to access it at the same time | 14:47 |
| freaxeh | I'll soon find out if that is the issue, rebooting the server | 14:48 |
| freaxeh | nope thats not it | 14:50 |
| freaxeh | cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/md0 /mnt/md0 | 14:50 |
| freaxeh | Device md0 not found | 14:50 |
| freaxeh | Cannot use device /mnt/md0, name is invalid or still in use. | 14:50 |
| gnarface | well is it still in use? | 14:53 |
| freaxeh | nope | 14:54 |
| gnarface | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=264287 ? | 14:54 |
| freaxeh | and i'm under root account | 14:54 |
| gnarface | check the output of mount | 14:55 |
| gnarface | see if anything related is still mounted | 14:56 |
| freaxeh | see: https://paste.debian.net/1375690/ | 14:56 |
| gnarface | never tried this all together, so maybe it's about what order things start in or something like that... | 14:56 |
| gnarface | hmm | 14:57 |
| gnarface | says device md0 not found | 14:57 |
| freaxeh | and yet its there | 14:57 |
| freaxeh | according to mdadm | 14:58 |
| gnarface | uh... if it got shut down prematurely, don't you need to resync it or something first? | 15:00 |
| freaxeh | yes probably how do I do that? | 15:00 |
| gnarface | with mdadm, i forget exactly | 15:01 |
| gnarface | being encrypted might screw with it | 15:01 |
| gnarface | i think people usually use LVM when doing this | 15:01 |
| gnarface | you didn't though, did you | 15:02 |
| gnarface | ? | 15:02 |
| freaxeh | use LVM? | 15:03 |
| gnarface | yea, you didn't use LVM, right? | 15:03 |
| freaxeh | no i dont think so | 15:03 |
| gnarface | what does "mdadm --detail /dev/md0" say? | 15:04 |
| freaxeh | i resynched it manually | 15:05 |
| freaxeh | its resynching now | 15:05 |
| gnarface | alright, well hopefully that will fix it | 15:05 |
| freaxeh | i'm never using luks on a raid ever again | 15:05 |
| gnarface | it's not super useful for an always-on device anyway | 15:06 |
| freaxeh | it says active - resynching (PENDING) | 15:13 |
| freaxeh | it says clean resynching (PENDING) | 15:13 |
| freaxeh | what does that mean? | 15:13 |
| freaxeh | is it waiting for a device to be free? | 15:14 |
| freaxeh | bbs i gotta go out | 15:14 |
| gnarface | is there still i/o traffic to the disks? | 15:15 |
| gnarface | check dmesg maybe for i/o errors | 15:15 |
| gnarface | maybe just in case stop nfs and unload all the modules first before you do this | 15:22 |
| freaxeh | https://forum.openmediavault.org/index.php?thread%2F21189-pending-resync-on-raid-array%2F= | 16:00 |
| freaxeh | tried this didnt work | 16:00 |
| freaxeh | echo repair > /sys/block/md1/md/sync_action | 16:07 |
| freaxeh | did the trick its now resynching | 16:07 |
| freaxeh | https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t=159008 | 16:07 |
| * freaxeh is literally throwing shit against the wall | 16:08 | |
| freaxeh | * to see what sticks | 16:09 |
| freaxeh | I must've been in a resync before I shut the system down | 16:39 |
| gnarface | it might be smart enough to resync automatically i don't know | 17:00 |
| gnarface | maybe that was why it was busy? | 17:00 |
| gnarface | i'm not clear on how luks would affect this though either | 17:00 |
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