libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2025-05-04

freaxeh2so uhm I cannot bring up the applications start menu05:57
freaxeh2I don't have a mouse05:57
freaxeh2figured that would be a bug more than a feature05:57
freaxeh2just wanted to report it05:58
fluffywolfmore context needed.  like, what desktop environment or window manager, and have you tried the menu button key and/or ctrl-esc?05:58
freaxeh2tried ctrl + esc no luck05:59
freaxeh2ill need a command to tell me what window manager i'm in06:00
* freaxeh2 looks through his hand written user manual for such a command06:00
freaxeh2slim06:01
freaxeh2according to cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager06:01
fluffywolfslim is a login manager, that gets you to the window manager...06:01
freaxeh2got any commands I can try?06:03
freaxeh2xfce06:11
fluffywolfwhen you log in, the login manager (slim) should let you pick a session...  I'm not sure where they store it these days.06:11
freaxeh2i tried "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" and it worked, xfce06:11
fluffywolfgoogling suggests it should be ctrl+escape...06:15
freaxeh2it just brings up that thing that opens when you right click on something06:16
freaxeh2thats all that ctrl + esc does on my system06:16
fluffywolfodd.06:17
fluffywolfI'll let an xfce user help more...  I'm an icewm user here.06:18
fluffywolfand ctrl-esc opens the menu I expect it to.  lol06:18
freaxeh2noted06:19
fluffywolfone google result says you should change the key binding for xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu , and you can run that in a terminal if you can't get to the settings thing06:20
lfluffywof<fluffywolf> one google result says you should change the key binding for xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu , and you can run that in a terminal if you can't get to the settings thing06:22
freaxeh2yep got it06:22
freaxeh_the same thing happens on linux mint06:28
fluffywolfnot having a keyboard shortcut for the most essential menu for using the system sounds like a bug...06:32
freaxehyes I thought so too06:33
fluffywolfhow about alt-f1?06:38
rrqhow about: xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu06:40
fluffywolffreaxeh2:  try alt-f106:43
freaxeh2ok06:43
freaxeh2yay that worked06:43
freaxeh2ty06:43
fluffywolfI asked in #xfce.  lol06:44
freaxeh2ahh06:44
freaxeh2going above and beyond I see06:45
freaxeh2now thats support!06:45
fluffywolfI try!  lol06:45
freaxehnow to fix my degraded raid array06:50
freaxeh./dev/sdc decided to throw a error overnight06:51
freaxehsomething about a bad sector06:52
fluffywolfcan't help with that...06:53
freaxehits ok i should be able to just: mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sdc106:53
fluffywolfI've only used raid once, and it never failed.06:53
freaxehweird it looks like it just lost its partition for some reason07:01
* freaxeh uses smartmontools07:05
fluffywolf"just"07:11
fluffywolfthere's no "just".  once you get a bad sector, replace the drive.07:11
freaxehnah i think I caused the problem by cleaning the case that the drives are in07:17
freaxehI'll order a new one anyway next week07:19
freaxehi did a backup of the raid partition before I cleaned the system so my data is safe07:19
freaxehalso its raid6 not raid 5 so I can have up to two drive failures before I lose data07:20
freaxehI'm currently running a smart long test on the affected drive, should complete sometime tomorrow in the morning07:21
freaxehit passed two short tests without error07:23
Guest33hey I added experimental sources to source.list but I cant find the 6.14 kernel12:55
gnarfacedid you "apt-get update" after you changed it?12:59
Guest33yes12:59
gnarfaceoh, hmm... is there actually a devuan experimental?12:59
Guest33yes13:00
gnarfacepkginfo.devuan.org is not showing anything for 6.14 as far as i can tell, though i'm not sure it searches experimental13:01
gnarface6.12.12 seems to be the lastest in unstable13:01
gnarface*latest13:01
Guest33deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib  non-free13:01
Guest33seems to not be there13:02
gnarfaceoh, no, i think that's wrong. try:  http://deb.devuan.org/merged13:02
gnarfacefor the other releases it's /merged, anyway13:04
Guest33E: Das Depot »http://deb.devuan.org/merged experimental Release« enthält keine Release-Datei.13:04
gnarfacei can't read that13:04
Guest33E stands for error13:04
Guest33:D13:04
gnarfacecan you be more explicit?13:05
gnarfaceanyway, i didn't think we have experimental, but stick around, someone else might know13:05
gnarfaceif it's just a i386 or amd64 kernel, it's probably unforked and you can just get it from the debian one if you really want to13:09
Guest33isnt kernel related to systemd?13:10
gnarfaceyes but it still works without13:10
gnarfacethe version strings of the forked packages all have "devuan" in them13:11
fsmithredthere is a devuan experimental repo, but there won't be any kernels in it, because we don't fork the kernel13:11
Guest33fsmithred is it safe to just install debian kernel here?13:17
fsmithredGuest33, debian kernel is the default here13:22
fsmithredyou would have to go out of your way to have something else13:22
rrqthere is http://deb.devuan.org/devuan experimental  ... it's not merged14:22
UdoI try to setup a local non public mirror for my local network and found a problem. I posted it on https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1933.18:51
UdoCan someone take a look at this?18:51
golinuxUdo . . . perhaps this will help? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=513819:06
UdoNo. I tried20:18
Udodeb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged stable main contrib non-free20:18
Udodeb-src https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged stable main contrib non-free20:18
Udodeb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged stable main contrib non-free20:18
Udodeb-src https://deb.devuan.org/merged stable main contrib non-free20:18
Udonothing helped.20:18

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