| paculino | The problem isn't running during boot, but the order that it starts running in relative to other things. Starting ifupdown just ten seconds after boot fixed all my problems with that. | 05:50 |
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| paculino | (Well, the problem wasn't running during boot, for me personally) | 05:51 |
| cousin_luigi | paculino: I think it has to do with services starting in parallel. You can either disable that or set dependencies. | 05:56 |
| cousin_luigi | I had to do something like that, once. | 05:56 |
| paculino | Just delaying enough to be after the wm started worked for me | 05:58 |
| gnarface | paculino: what i usually do is just disable the offending service then wire its start directly into my interfaces file | 06:04 |
| gnarface | ...usually tied by one of the script hooks to a particular network device | 06:04 |
| paculino | I'm lazy and stick with whatever initial solution still works. Which is why I still use CLI for volume control instead of making a proper widget. | 06:10 |
| darwin | i read to allow samba guest shares you only need '[homes]' 'browseable = yes' 'guest ok = yes' which now seems false on Devuan... added that; restarted smbd; can't access homes remotely in KDE Dolphin | 10:50 |
| darwin | from PC with KDE5, not 6 | 10:51 |
| gnarface | been a while since i used it, but i recall there being another gotcha with user names and passwords needing to match too | 11:03 |
| gnarface | if you try connecting with smbclient and be really explicit about everything (ips, workgroups, everything) it should be obvious what's not matching defaults | 11:04 |
| gnarface | well, maybe not immediately but i mean you can figure it out deductively that way | 11:04 |
| gnarface | in some cases windows may store the username in both long and short formats | 11:05 |
| gnarface | and i think you have to use the long one | 11:06 |
| gnarface | something like that | 11:06 |
| gnarface | ...and then if you created the "full name" version of the username all lower case, it may upper-case the first letters of each part on display, but not actually on storage or authentication, so it may not be super obvious what it thinks your username even is | 11:07 |
| gnarface | darwin: ^ | 11:10 |
| darwin | there are no passwords | 11:10 |
| gnarface | oh yes there is | 11:10 |
| darwin | nope | 11:10 |
| gnarface | try '' | 11:11 |
| darwin | if PAM was added that, PAM Linux is trying to force that on everyone. PAM FreeBSD doesn't | 11:11 |
| gnarface | no i mean on the windows side | 11:11 |
| darwin | there's no Windows side | 11:11 |
| gnarface | oh | 11:11 |
| darwin | wouldn't have those either | 11:11 |
| gnarface | well, start with smbclient then for sure | 11:11 |
| gnarface | but yes, windows would present a username and password, it just might not tell you it's doing it | 11:12 |
| gnarface | (depending on version and in some cases install-time setup options, iirc) | 11:12 |
| gnarface | but smbclient gives you command-line access to every single relevant parameter, so once you can connect with smbclient you can more easily figure out what other stuff isn't sending right | 11:13 |
| darwin | that works, just not withD Dolphin, which is the only thing we or at least they wanted to use it with | 11:13 |
| gnarface | smbclient also has some rudimentary probing features, to help figure out that the requests are going the right place and paths are right and such | 11:13 |
| gnarface | oh you already successfully connected with smbclient? | 11:14 |
| darwin | yes. Maybe I need to start some KDE services. By KDE4, everything was so slow, that I quit KDE5, and now in XFCE no longer start it with services, because Konsole, Dolphin, KATE don't seem to need those | 11:14 |
| darwin | i've been testing KDE6 almost a year and it's been buggier longer than all other 'plasma' versions | 11:15 |
| gnarface | it can't be that hard, my guess is dolphin is just missing part of the necessary info, or defaulting to something wrong, but unfortunately i'm not familiar enough with it to help with specifics... stick around though, maybe someone else here knows | 11:15 |
| gnarface | incidentally, if Windows isn't involved, why bother with samba? | 11:15 |
| darwin | ok | 11:15 |
| darwin | the users may use windows occasionally/rarely | 11:16 |
| gnarface | oh, well nfs is usually a lot easier to set up, and newer versions of windows support it | 11:16 |
| gnarface | unless you're like using win98 or something you shouldn't be really shackled to samba | 11:16 |
| darwin | and to help them, I don't want to do an entire NFS, because using stuff like chroots & NFS I accidentally deleted some of my stuff in those from my PC's shell | 11:16 |
| gnarface | hmm | 11:17 |
| darwin | i don't know if chroot does that... I mounted my /home/user in a chroot then started to delete most the chroot... what would that do? I never really found out... | 11:17 |
| darwin | i have backups, but they never learned how to make them, so I handle those, and some are supposed to be automatic nightly but things go wrong sometimes | 11:18 |
| gnarface | well, good luck to you. it's a slow channel but people read the scrollback so just hang around | 11:18 |
| gnarface | feel free to stay connected idle and check back tomorrow | 11:18 |
| darwin | should I have checked my backup after maybe deleting some of /root/chroot/home/darwin ? | 11:20 |
| gnarface | uh... i'm not sure what your confusion about it is | 11:20 |
| darwin | it was an OS chroot I mounted my PC's home directory | 11:21 |
| darwin | sometimes you mount a directory somewhere else and it won't delete it, like /root in NFS, but I don't know if /home/user in chroot denies that also | 11:22 |
| gnarface | uh, no. there's no safety on chroots like that as far as i know. it would have been operating on the real copies of whatever was in there | 11:23 |
| gnarface | so yes, if it was something important you should probably check your backups | 11:23 |
| gnarface | however, if it's just a user's home directory there's probably nothing in there that's unrecoverable unless you put it there yourself | 11:24 |
| gnarface | the system default files and such are usually simple to get back through the same automated mechanism that creates new users | 11:24 |
| gnarface | so uh, only you can really know the answer to this | 11:24 |
| gnarface | if NFS was also involved, i don't think that'll change anything but truthfully i never tried it | 11:25 |
| darwin | i may have stopped it before it was too late, but it was a long time ago. I forgot if I checked my main backups, but I have at least three other backups and more of some things | 11:25 |
| darwin | i see | 11:25 |
| gnarface | i still recommend NFS over samba, for various reasons | 11:25 |
| yeti | pfffft... I just read that like "NFS tunnelled thru samba" and started scratching my head about that... o;-) (still busy with first caffeine of the day) | 11:30 |
| gnarface | heh | 11:30 |
| * yeti like "http over tor" | 11:30 | |
| gnarface | to be clear i mean i still recommend NFS instead of samba | 11:30 |
| gnarface | you gain a lot of speed and lose a lot of complexity | 11:31 |
| gnarface | the security in both cases is laughable so on that count it's a wash | 11:31 |
| yeti | I had too many problems with samba and only used it when the job forced me | 11:32 |
| yeti | but that was >2 decades ago. the wounds are healing \o/ | 11:32 |
| gnarface | i think it was a similar amount of time for me | 11:32 |
| gnarface | slightly less than 2 decades | 11:32 |
| yeti | I use read-only autofs on /net | 11:32 |
| yeti | for write access scp/rsh or such. sometimes I need to restrict myself to keep me from doing silly things | 11:33 |
| yeti | s/rsh/rsync/ | 11:33 |
| yeti | I dont run complex UID translation tables and depending on installation order, d??an gives the same services different UIDs on the systems | 11:36 |
| cousin_luigi | paculino: To further elaborate on my comment from this morning, the file to modify is /etc/insserv/overrides | 18:51 |
| Guest66 | Is there some trick to run qemu-kvm on testing or is it not possible without editing packages? | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | According to pkginfo it's "not a thing": https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=qemu-kvm | 19:01 |
| Guest66 | Nvm, I remember how I did this previously | 19:09 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | hi guys | 19:56 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | ammm | 21:06 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | help | 21:06 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | i got this script : | 21:07 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | ffmpeg -i "$i" -acodec libmp3lame $(basename "$i").mp3 | 21:07 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | but i have problem whit "spaces" | 21:07 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | any suggest ? | 21:07 |
| CueXXIII | just quote the argument again: "$(basename "$i").mp3" | 21:08 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | i think : ffmpeg -i "$i" -acodec libmp3lame $(basename $("$i")).mp3 | 21:08 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | thanks CueXXIII | 21:09 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | let my try | 21:09 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | yes!!!!! | 21:11 |
| AlexLikeRock_ | its exactly zone , to put the quote | 21:12 |
| SOFTWIFI | Hi, is there someone in the room who could help me get my wifi TX power lower? | 23:58 |
| SOFTWIFI | I suspect that the regulatory domain is erroneously fixing my txpower at the regulatory maximum, but I need it to be about 70% lower than that. | 23:59 |
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