| darwin | today's update said: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-25-amd64. /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 43: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution | 09:22 |
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| darwin | only seems present in default/preset line: GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` | 09:23 |
| darwin | so now it can't update kernel | 09:23 |
| darwin | fixed it | 09:28 |
| darwin | how do I prevent /etc/resolv.conf from being overwritten? I'm not used to foolish 'services' overwriting this in a non-UNIX-like way | 09:53 |
| rrq | the dns setting is typically part of the dhcp protocol and in default setup the dhcp client will be the one writing /etc/resolv.conf | 09:56 |
| rrq | some dhcp clients can be configured to ignore the dns settings offered y the dhcp server | 09:57 |
| onefang | Or you can tackle it from the other end if it's DHCP doing that. My DHCP is run by my router, which I configured to hand out the correct DNS settings. That wont work if it's your ISP giving you your DHCP stuff. | 10:07 |
| darwin | i just need instructions for default | 10:16 |
| onefang | Sounds like what rrq was talking about, but he might be having dinner right now. I should to. | 10:26 |
| rrq | which dhcp client do you use? does it have a man page? | 10:45 |
| djph | 'dinner' at 10:30? | 10:47 |
| rrq | +1000 | 10:48 |
| onefang | 18:48 here. | 10:48 |
| djph | oh, right, you're across the pond the other way ... | 10:49 |
| onefang | "We come from the land down under." B-) | 10:49 |
| djph | :) well, enjoy then ... oh, this isn't -offtopic, oops :( | 10:52 |
| darwin | the default | 11:00 |
| rrq | sometimes one can do "dpkg -l | grep dhcp" to get a clue | 11:01 |
| rrq | many dhcp clients come in packages whose name includes "dhcp" | 11:02 |
| rrq | I'm not sure anyone can guess about your system | 11:03 |
| darwin | it just came with Devuan 5 installer | 11:03 |
| darwin | i didn't do anything different/special | 11:03 |
| djph | should(tm) just be isc-dhcp then | 11:04 |
| rrq | you need to know which one you have so that you can edit your configuration files. I don't think any of them come with a tickbox gui | 11:04 |
| darwin | yeah | 11:04 |
| rrq | i don't use isc-dhcp anymore but I seem to remember it well documented but with some quirk regarding dns updates; I may be wrong. In any case, open your mind and revel in acquiring some new knowledge from its man pages... | 11:13 |
| darwin | there seems to be no manpage | 11:16 |
| darwin | i found it | 11:17 |
| rrq | the package isc-dhcp-client seeems to have 4 man pages (you can check with "dpkg -L | grep man/man") | 11:19 |
| rrq | well: dpkg -L isc-dhcp-client | grep man/man | 11:23 |
| onefang | darwin left. | 11:23 |
| onefang | Might be rebooting to test the fix they found. | 11:24 |
| rrq | reboot? .. reconnect, surely | 11:24 |
| rrq | is there a quirk if the net is brought up bre-pivot? I would guess then any config change needs to be written into the initrd (as well)? | 11:28 |
| rrq | .. pre-pivot ... i.e. with allow-hotplug | 11:28 |
| onefang | Sometimes there's a timing quirk between services if the network isn't up yet, even if the dependencies should work around that. | 11:28 |
| darwin | i want to download a specific old package (ytalk) source code tabrall but can't find it | 11:48 |
| rrq | ytalk was in beowulf latest | 11:50 |
| darwin | i see | 11:51 |
| rrq | you can add "deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64" to your sources list and the I think apt-get source ytalk would give you the debian source | 11:51 |
| darwin | thanks | 11:51 |
| rrq | possibly not its upstream tarball though | 11:52 |
| darwin | i have that anyway | 11:52 |
| darwin | but the Debian/Devuan version seems some versions behind. I have 3.1.1 | 11:54 |
| darwin | with that one, on one Debian PC some compiler flags were '-lSM -lICE -lX11'. On the other one, ld couldn't find the first two | 11:58 |
| darwin | i found them | 12:00 |
| rrq | beowulf version is 3.3.0-9+b3 | 12:01 |
| darwin | okay, but can it be run as an X window instead of terminal? It might be a different fork | 12:02 |
| rrq | yes ytalk seems to be an ncurses program, so runs in a terminal | 12:05 |
| darwin | it might be both if I can find the original source code | 12:07 |
| rrq | seems 3.1.1 ies earlier.. get tgz with: wget ftp://ftp.ourproject.org/pub/ytalk/ytalk-3.1.1.tar.gz | 12:11 |
| rrq | that version seems to have had X11 interface | 12:11 |
| rrq | I'm reading https://ytalk.ourproject.org/YTalk-espel.html | 12:12 |
| rrq | fwd pointer to https://ytalk.ourproject.org/YTalk-metawire.html which offers an 3.1.2 tgz | 12:14 |
| darwin | if I can't run a daemon/inetd/server such as the old ktalkd (KDE talk) that will let someone BSD talk me on my PC and it pops up in X, I'm not sure I'm going to use it anymore. They discontinued that in KDE3... we used it for some years after (before forced to use KDE4) if someone else in the house had to message me on my PC to ask me to do something. Nothing is simpler nor faster without a lot of other complications | 12:15 |
| fonky | hi all | 12:17 |
| darwin | the only other thing I guess I could do is keep my X ytalk open and make them an icon to launch it | 12:17 |
| fonky | one question if fdisk -l does not give output about a usb flash what else can i use? | 12:18 |
| fonky | lsblk also does not show it | 12:18 |
| darwin | lsscsi | 12:18 |
| darwin | it shouldn't be too many pages of output like those may have (if you have a fair bit of RAM) then you can see if it's still working | 12:19 |
| rrq | fonky: does something get listed in /var/log/syslog when you unplug/plug it in? | 12:19 |
| darwin | also dmesg after you connect it | 12:19 |
| fonky | rrq yes it does | 12:20 |
| fonky | when plugging in the info about the drive when unplugging it usb door # | 12:20 |
| fonky | it shows it as disk drive | 12:20 |
| fonky | but not what /dev/ i | 12:20 |
| fonky | is | 12:20 |
| fonky | if using lsscsi | 12:20 |
| fonky | [6:0:0:0] disk Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 PMAP - | 12:21 |
| rrq | no sdX ? | 12:21 |
| fonky | nope | 12:21 |
| fonky | this is the whole output | 12:22 |
| fonky | root@devuan:/home/devuan# lsscsi | 12:22 |
| fonky | [4:0:0:0] cd/dvd ASUS DRW-24B5ST 1.00 /dev/sr0 | 12:22 |
| fonky | [6:0:0:0] disk Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 PMAP - | 12:22 |
| fonky | running live dvd iso | 12:22 |
| rrq | right /dev/sr0 | 12:22 |
| fonky | yeah thats the cd/dvd | 12:23 |
| rrq | you can mount that ... typically on /media/cdrom | 12:23 |
| fonky | and fdisk -l just does not show usb drives | 12:23 |
| rrq | it shos all disk drives | 12:24 |
| fonky | typically, yes | 12:24 |
| rrq | doesn't show cd drives | 12:24 |
| rrq | hmm that kingston should show up | 12:27 |
| fonky | also udiskie and gparted fail at starting up | 12:27 |
| rrq | does the machine have a USB3.0 port? | 12:28 |
| fonky | yes | 12:28 |
| fonky | it does not show up if connected at usb 2.x or usb 3.x port | 12:29 |
| rrq | and xhci_* modules get loaded? | 12:29 |
| fonky | not sure about the last, its a live 5.0 | 12:32 |
| rrq | lsmod | grep xhci | 12:33 |
| fonky | yes they do | 12:33 |
| fonky | show up | 12:33 |
| fonky | usbcore and usbcommon | 12:33 |
| rrq | can you use a usb hub in between? | 12:33 |
| fonky | usbcore 348160 8 xhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,xhci_pci,ohci_pci | 12:34 |
| fonky | usb_common 16384 4 xhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,usbcore,ehci_hcd | 12:34 |
| fonky | xhci-pci. xhci_hcd and what i have pasted | 12:35 |
| rrq | yes.. looks fine as such | 12:36 |
| fonky | oh and gnome disk utility does start up but not showing usb flash | 12:36 |
| fonky | and usb ports do work fine, else i would not be typing and moving the cursor :) | 12:37 |
| rrq | one test is to use a usb hub if you have one | 12:39 |
| fonky | nopes | 12:40 |
| fonky | brb going to try something | 12:40 |
| joerg | tail -f /var/log/... &; #plug-the-USB-storage-device; #report-here | 13:01 |
| joerg | ooops, nebermind >> <rrq> fonky: does something get listed in /var/log/syslog...<< missed that | 13:03 |
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