libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2024-08-28

plasma41Hurgotron: You're best bet for resolving printer issues is probably to ask in #debian-printing on OFTC.00:20
ballCan I install a .deb package on Devuan?05:57
debdogball: short answer, yes. that's what devuan/debian's package management based on05:59
fluffywolfif it's for Devuan or Debian, yes.  If it's for a Debian or Devuan derrived distro, maybe.  If it's for ubuntu, probably not.05:59
debdogbut I suspect there's more to this question05:59
fluffywolfthe exception to the first one being that if it's for Debian and depends on systemd, it's unlikely to work, and may not install if it has an package dependency on systemd.06:00
ballHello fluffywolf!06:00
balldebdog: I downloaded a .deb for VNC Viewer from realvnc.com but I don't know how to install it.06:01
ball(or how to try)06:01
fluffywolfdpkg -i <file.deb> is the short way.  there's longer, better ways, but that's the one I remember right now.06:02
ballThanks, I'll try it.06:02
Unit193apt install ./thedeb.deb  is better.06:02
Xenguyball, Use the software in your distro06:02
XenguyOr complicate your life, be my guest06:03
ballHey, it works!06:03
XenguySometimes you get lucky, until you're not06:03
adhocball: that will break in the future when libraries change.06:03
ball(in this case)06:03
ballIt even installed into the Applications menu.06:05
ball...so that06:05
ball's nice06:05
ballXenguy: I did look for a VNC viewer in the package application but didn't see one.06:05
ball...and I'm comfortable with this one.06:06
fluffywolfapt-cache search shows "gvncviewer - VNC viewer using gtk-vnc" "ssvnc - Enhanced TightVNC viewer with SSL/SSH tunnel helper" "tigervnc-viewer - Virtual network computing client for X" "xtightvncviewer - virtual network computing client software for X"06:07
ballfluffywolf: None of those showed up in the package application.06:08
balltightvnc viewer would have done at a push.06:08
ballI use this one on some other platforms though.06:08
ballI shall go away now to save the battery.  Thanks everyone for the help!06:10
fluffywolfglad to help!06:10
gnarfaceprobably should have helped him with his sources.list if those search results were not coming back right...06:44
hunter0oneMorning16:54
AwesomeAdam54321Morning16:58
hunter0oneGlad to be back on Devuan =)17:03
user71distro hopping? but why17:18
hunter0oneNo good reason really17:18
user71surely the other distro had something of desire that devuan doesn't have17:19
hunter0oneParticularly in PCLOS I liked not having elogind, is there any interest in logind alternatives in Devuan? I'm aware of ck2 being available in the repos but everything is built for elogind instead17:21
gnarfaceyou don't really need elogind if you don't need a graphical login17:24
hunter0oneYes but for things like Network Manager you do because they are built with elogind session tracking instead of consolekit17:27
gnarfaceoh, i don't use that either17:27
hunter0oneI like to use KDE so I use it but it's really not the desktop environments that are so dependent on it besides GNOME, it's when polkit, network manager, and a few others are built with it enabled17:31
hunter0oneMaybe something like turnstile will make it easier in the future instead of needing to fork the packages for two different build options which I think would be against the Devuan policy sadly17:34
sad-turniphi, is the deb.devuan.org mirror not working or is it just me23:19
masonsad-turnip: It's answering here.23:25
onefangdeb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin amongst most of our package mirrors.23:27
onefangSo could be you just got one that was done right now, try again later.  Or it could be just you.23:28
onefanghttp://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html and https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html give the status of our package mirrors.23:29
onefangJust ignore that it says 2 failures specifically for HTTP on deb.devuan.org, that's a glitch in my monitoring.23:30
onefangEr "down right now".23:30
sad-turniphmm says failure resolving deb.devuan.org for both http and https23:34
sad-turnipi tried ftp.fau.de but that says its missing a release file23:34
onefangMight have been the update that just happened, ftp.fau.de is showing fine on my tests.  Did you try again half an hour later?23:37
onefangThere's a few others in Germany if that's what you need, and since last weekend my mirror is now in Germany.23:38
sad-turnipworks with a different mirror, thanks23:40
onefangAlso, don't use deb.devuan.org with HTTPS, only HTTP.23:40
onefangCool, you are welcome.23:40

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