libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2024-07-24

djphsystemdlete: mine's blurry till I'm awake enough to put in contacts00:21
djph... oops, this isn't -ot :|00:21
sanitargnarface: the link didn't work00:30
sanitari changed a couple of things in the boot config file00:30
sanitarhttps://bin.nixnet.services/?a841fd13d80c1a39#7ci18uwEhZxks6hd2rCHFAJHdXMWt7YGhLrE3oLQybvS00:30
sanitarwhen i boot it up it couldn't find vmlinuz and gave me a "load kernel" type error.00:33
gnarfacesanitar: you wouldn't have been able to follow the grub entry contents verbatim, you know that, right? you would have had to edit paths and file and version #'s to match what you actually have, some interpretation would have been necessary. did you do such things?00:34
gnarfacei'll look at your grub config if you paste it to paste.debian.net instead00:35
sanitargnarface: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bb1bac64/00:36
gnarfacesanitar: first couple things i see, ext2 might be the wrong one, "msdos3" might be the wrong one or just having the "msdos" prefix might be the wrong thing, and i note you've added /iso/, which isn't in the example00:40
gnarfaceif it can't find vmlinuz that's a pretty clear indicator that one of the things you've provided to tell it where to find it is wrong00:40
gnarfacei'm not sure if they're insmodding ext2 here because it needs that to read the contents of the iso, or if the partition itself is ext2 in their case, in which case you'd need to insmod something else if you didn't use ext200:41
gnarfacea pity fsmithred isn't around, he knows how to do this i think00:41
gnarfaceall i can say is it looks like you've almost got it, just verify these things00:41
gnarfaceand it might help to remove "quiet quiet splash" from the kernel commandline if you do get it booting, just so you can see what's actually happening after that, in case something else goes wrong00:42
gnarfacethis had just come up some days or weeks ago i think, and they got it working then. you might be able to find a hint in the channel logs.00:43
sanitargnarface: i added the "msdos" line since my computer's partitioning scheme is mbr, and i found another vmlinuz but i didn't want the iso's vmlinuz to clash with the system's so i added a folder00:46
sanitar^the system is a distro i installed half a year ago00:47
gnarfaceyou sure #3 is the right partition? grub should be able to give you a prompt you can use to check by typing commands into00:49
gnarfaceyou can literally type this boot entry in one line at a time and figure out where the first error is00:50
sanitargnarface: what is the command to check if it is right?00:51
joerghttp://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/search?q=splash00:51
sanitarjoerg: i'll check it out00:52
sanitarah, sorry for the inconvenience00:53
joerghttp://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/_devuan.2024-06-18.log.html#t2024-06-18T10:13:2800:53
joerggnarface: 6 weeks ago :-)00:54
gnarfacejoerg: wait, is that the one with the working grub boot entry for booting a live iso?00:54
joergno idea00:55
gnarfaceoh00:55
* gnarface sighs00:55
gnarfacei wish he wouldn't disconnect while we're still figuring it out00:56
joergmaybe just rebooting00:56
gnarfacethe issue he's actually having, is he has an old dell with one harddrive, no removable disks, and is too paranoid to use a network installer00:58
gnarfaceso understandably he just wants to boot the live iso from the harddrive00:58
gnarfacebut unfortunately i don't remember what the trick is, so we're working off a Debian forum post00:58
gnarfaceand every time he gets a new idea to try he disappears for 24 hours00:59
joergohmy01:00
joerghow about... an USB stick?01:00
gnarfacehe has stated he has no other options, no optical disks, no usb disks, no extra harddrives01:01
gnarfacethat does beg the question of how he got the live iso onto the harddrive in the first place but i honestly didn't want to know01:01
joergno memstick? they're three a tenner01:01
gnarfacei can only assume there's some or another logistical issue01:03
gnarfacei didn't want to pry01:03
gnarfacei did suggest usb or optical very early in this process01:03
gnarfaceit seemed to be something he'd already considered01:03
joergprolly failed and went right into the "Z" of XY-problem01:04
gnarfacei dunno, but i know what it's like to try to get something done with no resources and enemies around every corner, so i didn't press the issue01:05
joerg:nod:01:05
joergjust ask them to stay longer next time01:05
freem<gnarface> that does beg the question of how he got the live iso onto the harddrive in the first place but i honestly didn't want to know16:44
freemnetwork booting?16:44
gnarfacefreem: doubt it19:26
fsmithredgnarface, here are some examples of menuentries to boot live iso from hard drive: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2334  https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1710  https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=539721:48
gnarfacefsmithred: thanks21:49
gnarfaceah, i bet he was just missing "insmod part_msdos"21:49
gnarfacei'll make sure to show him if he makes it back21:49
fsmithredcool, thanks. I'll be offline again in a few seconds.21:50
fsmithredmaybe back later.21:50

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