| onefang | Hmm, that didn't work out so well. | 12:22 |
|---|---|---|
| onefang_ | Dammit, I had this working before. | 12:38 |
| onefang | Oh well, back to hexchat. | 12:39 |
| onefang | Anyone know how to get biboumi to indentify to nickserv? | 12:45 |
| onefang | Or an alternative IRC / XMPP bridge? | 12:49 |
| onefang | Yes, I know, I could use pidgin to handle both protocols, but I don't like it. | 12:50 |
| fsmithred | konversation? | 12:51 |
| fsmithred | might pull in too much k | 12:51 |
| onefang | Yeah, that's the problem with k stuff. I'l try it anyway, already got some k stuff anyway. | 12:52 |
| onefang | Um konversation only does IRC. | 12:53 |
| fsmithred | oh | 12:53 |
| onefang | I could live with pidgin if I could get the buddy window to join the chat window. | 12:55 |
| fsmithred | brb | 13:06 |
| onefang | Ah there is a plugin to merge those two windows in pidgin. Let's see if I can find it in the repos. | 13:10 |
| onefang | Not in the repos, and "The nature of this project can potentially destabilize Pidgin or its other plugins, so use it at your own risk." | 13:17 |
| APic | Hi! | 17:18 |
| APic | When trying to upgrade from daedalus to excalibur: | 17:19 |
| APic | https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1339542 | 17:19 |
| APic | https://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1339543 | 17:20 |
| * APic → evil RL | 17:21 | |
| APic | cul8r 😌 | 17:21 |
| fsmithred | APic, you should install usrmerge before the upgrade | 17:26 |
| fsmithred | if you made any symlinks manually, you might need to undo them first. I'm not sure about that. | 17:27 |
| FlibberTGibbet | how usable is excalibur at the moment, on a scale from <explodes on contact> to 10? | 18:07 |
| golinux | Hey, FlibberTGibbet . . . haven't seen you in ages! | 18:08 |
| FlibberTGibbet | hey golinux. How are you? | 18:08 |
| golinux | Still truckin' . . . | 18:09 |
| golinux | As to your question . . . what fsmithred said. Depends a lot on your setup as always . . . | 18:10 |
| FlibberTGibbet | Well, just light laptop use on a not-quite-elderly Dell Latitude laptop | 18:11 |
| APic | fsmithred: Thanks for telling me afterwards. 😌 | 18:12 |
| golinux | Seems some of you don't read the forum, mailing lists or WWW where it is mentioned in the index page . . . | 18:18 |
| FlibberTGibbet | how do I go about installing usrmerge on the excalibur desktop iso, or is that possible? just had it fail on a 'guided / use all disk' vm install... | 18:20 |
| FlibberTGibbet | (fresh install) | 18:21 |
| FlibberTGibbet | yeah, aborting for now. will try again some other time | 18:26 |
| APic | Forum, lol | 18:27 |
| APic | And yes, i already had an Install Party in Mind. 😸 | 18:27 |
| fsmithred | FlibberTGibbet, why did it fail? | 18:44 |
| fsmithred | APic, why didn't you ask? | 18:44 |
| * APic felt lucky. | 18:45 | |
| fsmithred | sometimes that works | 18:45 |
| APic | Indeed | 18:45 |
| APic | At least better than systemd. ♥ | 18:46 |
| fsmithred | FlibberTGibbet, I have an excalibur install that I'm using as a file server and print server and it works great. ssh, nfs, autofs, cups all good. I can't use aptitude - it gets lost trying to calculate any upgrade. I can do 'apt upgrade'. In general I suggest waiting until freeze which might not be soon. | 18:47 |
| fsmithred | APic, can you install usrmerge now, or is it still saying it's broken? | 18:48 |
| APic | fsmithred: I do not sit in front of my Home-Tower named Zarniwoop right now. | 18:50 |
| fsmithred | I'm surprised it didn't get installed automatically. I forget what is supposed to pull it in. | 18:52 |
| * APic did not have the /etc/apt/sources.list set to excalibur until today there | 18:55 | |
| FlibberTGibbet | fsmithred: tbh it's not urgent -- I just enjoy seeing a forthcoming version a little ways ahead of time. so better to wait, as you suggest | 19:09 |
| FlibberTGibbet | fsmithred: the iso's installer complained that usr-merge-whatever-the-package-name wasn't installed, which was a bit of a surprise if it's essential to the directory structure :) | 19:10 |
| FlibberTGibbet | guessing that the main way to test atm is install daedalus and upgrade after installing that package? if so it might just be that the installer hasn't taken this on board yet... | 19:12 |
| FlibberTGibbet | *iso installer | 19:12 |
| rwp | Testing/Excalibur/Trixie won't be released until next year at the earliest. Getting an early peek at it is about a year away. Plenty of time for crazy migrations to happen still. :-) | 19:16 |
| rwp | Usually the way to get there is to use the Stable ISO to install Stable and then upgrade to Testing from Stable or to Unstable from Stable. Report any problems found as those are the problems that need to be worked on. | 19:18 |
| rwp | Install usrmerge package first because that is a well discussed and well known huge thing that we have all been talking about nothing else for the last six months. | 19:18 |
| fsmithred | FlibberTGibbet, I think you have to select expert install and then you get a question about merged /usr | 19:20 |
| APic | Re | 20:25 |
| * APic will look at the Issue again tomorrow. 😌 | 20:26 | |
| plasma41 | APic: Has your computer ever taken any intergalactic cruises? | 20:36 |
| APic | plasma41: Countless. | 20:42 |
| Guest59 | Help install nvidia driver 390? | 22:45 |
| debdog | gnarface: ^ your customer | 22:55 |
| debdog | Guest59: I am not an expert on this but I've just follwed the instructions there: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA | 23:00 |
| debdog | AND THEN, afterwards, removing the nvidia-persistenced package | 23:00 |
| Guest59 | Is that pack.spyware? | 23:01 |
| debdog | hmm? | 23:02 |
| debdog | nvidia-persistenced? | 23:03 |
| debdog | dunno. but I have not seen any advantage but it cause errors | 23:04 |
| Guest59 | I just dont see the driver in repos. I tried from .Run file but it failed to compile | 23:05 |
| debdog | what devuan version? Guest59 | 23:05 |
| Guest59 | Beowulf | 23:07 |
| debdog | dang, I just realised I am still on Chimaera. there the 390 packages are still available. no clue about Daedalsu | 23:07 |
| debdog | oh, Beowulf | 23:08 |
| Guest59 | Iz itnonfree repo? | 23:08 |
| Guest59 | I havs one chimera addedbut has no nvidia 390 | 23:08 |
| debdog | you might have to add non-free | 23:08 |
| Guest59 | Ok i will try now | 23:09 |
| Guest59 | Only findz glx-altsrnative-nvidia pack | 23:17 |
| debdog | sorry, I am un able to reproduce the situation for Beowulf | 23:18 |
| debdog | *unable | 23:18 |
| debdog | if you add non-free, run apt-get update | 23:19 |
| debdog | dang, I am an aptitute guy | 23:20 |
| Guest59 | I ran it | 23:20 |
| debdog | then run "aptitude search nvidia | grep 390" what output do you get? | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | 418.226.00-3 500 | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | 500 http://archive.devuan.org/merged beowulf/non-free amd64 Packages | 23:21 |
| Guest59 | Tell me name.of pack please | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | nvidia-driver | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | apt policy nvidia-driver | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | assuming you have non-free enabled | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver | 23:23 |
| fsmithred | ^^^ in beowulf | 23:24 |
| debdog | k | 23:24 |
| Guest59 | It shows 3 options. Metapack source, nvidia binary kernel module source and xserver xorg nvidia binary driver | 23:25 |
| Guest59 | Which one is the needed? | 23:26 |
| fsmithred | apt-get install nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver | 23:26 |
| fsmithred | That is the metapackage and it will pull in whatever else you need | 23:27 |
| Guest59 | I will try | 23:28 |
| Guest59 | Says ihave unmet dependencies | 23:31 |
| onefang | Go and meet them, I'm sure they'll be friendly. B-) | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | apt-get -f install | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | with no package names - does it say to run that? | 23:32 |
| Guest59 | No | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | what's missing? | 23:33 |
| Guest59 | I ran it and its ok | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | ok | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | you also need xorg.conf and I don't remember how that gets done. | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | Maybe nvidia-settings or some config program? | 23:34 |
| Guest59 | Says nvidia-installer-cleanup is not installable | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | I didn't know that existed | 23:35 |
| Guest59 | Also that cleanup failed to be configured at installation yesterday | 23:35 |
| Guest59 | Nvidia-support is also notinstallable | 23:36 |
| Guest59 | Says i have held broken packs | 23:37 |
| fsmithred | nvidia-xconfig | 23:38 |
| fsmithred | apt-get -f install <- did this run without error? | 23:39 |
| Guest59 | Yes | 23:39 |
| Guest59 | Tried from chimera, same errors | 23:39 |
| fsmithred | you're using deb.devuan.org or archive.devuan.org in sources.list? | 23:42 |
| Guest59 | Deb.devuan.org | 23:42 |
| Guest59 | pastebin.com/LZshCQxr | 23:45 |
| fsmithred | did you get 390.154 or 390.157? | 23:46 |
| Guest59 | See pastebin it says 157 | 23:47 |
| fsmithred | ok, the problem might be nvidia-persistenced | 23:49 |
| fsmithred | try this... | 23:49 |
| Guest59 | Try install persistenced? | 23:50 |
| fsmithred | apt-get --no-install-recommends install nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver nvidia-settings-legacy-390xx | 23:50 |
| Guest59 | Ok | 23:50 |
| Guest59 | Nvidia-settings has no installation candidate | 23:53 |
| fsmithred | apt-cache search nvidia-settings | 23:53 |
| Guest59 | And fails again | 23:53 |
| fsmithred | I get three packages listed from that command | 23:54 |
| fsmithred | apt-get --no-install-recommends install nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver | 23:54 |
| fsmithred | ^^^ try just that | 23:54 |
| Guest9 | Gives same as in pastebin | 23:55 |
| Guest9 | Except recommends | 23:56 |
| fsmithred | do you have "contrib" in sources.list? | 23:56 |
| fsmithred | you need main contrib non-free | 23:57 |
| Guest9 | Its commendted out | 23:57 |
| fsmithred | you need it. Some of the packages are in contrib. You can add it to the existing lines for beowulf and beowulf-security. (390xx is in -security) | 23:58 |
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