| darwin | i couldn't find out anything about installing OpenCL/AMDGPU-pro... posted on forum last month... everyone got stuck in details then no more answers | 00:35 |
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| gnarface | darwin: so uh... opencl shouldn't be a hard trick, the packages are all over the repo. for amdgpu-pro however, i think you need a 3rd party kernel build as they only support a handful of specific custom builds of specific kernel versions | 00:37 |
| gnarface | i would expect AMD to have published a download link for that kernel somewhere | 00:38 |
| darwin | i don't need anything for the kernel, just OpenCL | 00:38 |
| gnarface | oh, well then "apt-cache search opencl" | 00:38 |
| darwin | but on one OS when I installed ROCm OpenCL it didn't work... only AMDGPU-pro OpenCL worked | 00:40 |
| gnarface | i'm vague on it but i thought expected behavior was that this stuff only works if you're using the "pro" enabled driver and kernel versions | 00:41 |
| gnarface | i only looked into it once at some point in regards to getting gpu-accelerated rendering enabled blender, then gave up when i found out it wouldn't work with the stock debian kernels | 00:42 |
| gnarface | did you happen to check to see if the debian wiki has any documentation about this? i bet their setup process wouldn't be much different if so... | 00:43 |
| gnarface | anyway, my advice is to just stay connected | 00:46 |
| gnarface | it might take a while for someone to show up who knows about this | 00:46 |
| gnarface | and forgive me if you already knew this, but i wanted to state for pedantic clarity so there's no confusion: the "amdgpu" driver available with the stock install that you need to enable with the "firmware-amd-graphics" package from non-free/non-free-firmware - that's not amdgpu-pro, just so we're clear. that's just regular amdgpu. | 00:48 |
| gnarface | amdgpu-pro only supports a couple specific kernel builds, and they're not from the debian/devuan repos | 00:49 |
| gnarface | i would assume the rest of the opencl stuff are just among the package lists returned from the normal repos when you search for opencl, but maybe you need a custom build of all that stuff too, i don't know for sure as i've never used it | 00:51 |
| darwin | i don't really know but heard there are maybe 100+ packages used for OpenCL in AMDGPU-pro/ROCR and I only saw a few in 'apt-cache search opencl' | 00:56 |
| darwin | some which appear to be conflicting | 00:56 |
| gnarface | well, the total package count will vary by distro | 00:57 |
| gnarface | though debian derivatives usually have more granular packaging so i certainly wouldn't expect less... | 00:57 |
| gnarface | what are you actually looking for specifically that you can't find? is it possible it's something that would be in non-free or contrib but you're not searching those? | 00:57 |
| gnarface | you can search the official package lists here, if you want to sanity check the results you're getting locally: pkginfo.devuan.org | 00:58 |
| darwin | i don't know anything about the topic; I just use OpenCL for number-crunching programs | 01:14 |
| gnarface | darwin: hmm, well i would look for a debian based setup guide for it for bookworm, or similar, that should apply to devuan too unless there's parts that need systemd now... | 02:21 |
| gnarface | keep in mind that guides for older versions might just have different package names | 02:24 |
| darwin | i found out amdgpu-pro now also is made for Debian... | 04:40 |
| TorC | Looking to replace a defunct printer. Have had an HP MFP that gave good service, but not interested in their games with requiring logins and such for a replacement. | 05:12 |
| TorC | Brother laser MFPs have been checked and somewhat reluctantly rejected for inadequate paper path strength for needed papers. | 05:14 |
| TorC | Currently looking at Xerox C-series or Canon ImageCLASS, and wondering if anyone has reports on support in Devuan and other Linux including paper selection and such, preferably without installing proprietary drivers. | 05:15 |
| rustyaxe | never buy HP | 05:16 |
| TorC | Sorry if this is considered too off-topic, but, OTOH, if I errantly get one poorly supported I might end up right back here, so… | 05:16 |
| rustyaxe | Ive had good luck with samsung as far just a print, no idea on scanning | 05:16 |
| rustyaxe | Others might have experience on that, but i print almost daily to a samsung from linux | 05:17 |
| TorC | I don't do that much scanning, and have gotten by just fine for years just using scan to email. | 05:17 |
| TorC | Thanks for the Samsung recommendation. I'll check up on models. | 05:17 |
| paculino | TorC, scanners just came up in #libreplanet recently as well; there pabs3 suggested looking in http://sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html | 05:25 |
| paculino | ( https://openprinting.github.io/upcoming-technologies/02-ipp-scan/ https://openprinting.github.io/gsoc2019/03-sane-module/ have more on sane) | 05:25 |
| fluffywolf | I haven't bought a printer since before hp was so terrible. I mainly use epson for inkjets and hp for lasers, but I know new hp lasers are evil. | 05:26 |
| fluffywolf | my epson inkjet/scanner works great in linux | 05:26 |
| TorC | I've had Epson inkjet previously, and been very glad of Robert Krawitz' fine work on drivers there. | 05:27 |
| TorC | Wait, what? Samsung laser printers are found in the HP store, but not on Samsung's website? | 05:30 |
| TorC | From the link preview to Samsung's computing accessories page, "printer business and its related affiliates were transferred to HP Inc. For more information, please visit HP's website: http://www.hp.com/go/samsung." | 05:31 |
| TorC | Guess that's a non-starter these days. | 05:32 |
| debdog | I have to agrree with fluffywolf. for home use epson inkjet works pretty well. scanning as well | 05:43 |
| debdog | and the modern ones do not have expensive cartriges but one can refill the printer's ink tanks from small bottles | 05:46 |
| TorC | True. I maybe should look again at inkjet. Last time I was at it, I found it more trouble than I liked dealing with. Also like the rather less fragile nature of laser prints. | 05:48 |
| debdog | my brother in law bought a epson inkjet about two years ago. so far no problems with dried up ink at all. I've even held a test print under the faucet and it barely blurred | 05:51 |
| debdog | though it is not as fast as most laser printers. if you print a lot, laser might be better | 06:01 |
| TorC | True. I don't generally print a huge volume at a time, but do print pretty regularly and appreciate the speed of the laser. Probably not a fatal issue, on consideration, though. | 06:02 |
| debdog | oh, and double sided printing is not as good. the ink shines through the sheets. but that depends on the qualitiy of the paper, of course | 06:11 |
| Xenguy | TorC, I haven't needed a printer at home for some time now, but when I did have one I did some research then and found that Brother inkjets were well supported, and it worked fine under linux using CUPS. It was just a printer though. The 'sane' above will probably give you the lowdown you need on hardware compatibility, or you can probably just run a search on 'linux compatible printer' or something similar to find out which models are linux friendly | 12:52 |
| Xenguy | I know that I would never bother with inkjets anymore, and laser printers seem to make more sense to me overall | 12:53 |
| cousin_luigi | Xenguy: I can tell you that my Brother MFC works flawlessly. A laser one though. | 13:06 |
| kodin | hello! I hope I'm in the right place. | 15:19 |
| kodin | I want try life without systemd; but I'm unsure of where to find a good comparison of init systems (besides the one on Gentoo's wiki); runit seems interesting to me. Can someone walk me through what the install process for runit is like? What problems might I encounter? Any pointers to a resource would be appreciated! | 15:20 |
| kodin | nvm found the install guide | 15:24 |
| gnarface | kodin: if you're asking, you're probably better off with sysvinit, the default, just because it's got builtin support for more programs. with runit, it's easier to add support for a program yourself, but you'll probably also have to do it a lot more often. still... the work wouldn't be unwelcome if shared, so don't let me discourage you if that's what you want to do. | 15:55 |
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