libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2024-05-17

e3d3I ran Refracta snapshot with the defaults and got no errors or success message, but also no iso file ! ~/work is populated but ~/snapshot is empty. How can I solve that ?00:11
e3d3I selected the first option: Create a snapshot (uefi enabled). Should I select instead option "Re-squash and make iso (no-copy)", or another option ? I have no idea what the "no-copy" means.00:14
e3d3Nor what "squash" or "re-squash" means, if no little ball is involved.00:16
gnarfacefsmithred: ^00:17
e3d3He ^ helped me before with Refracta, but I can't find notes about this issue, or the right info in the forum.00:21
e3d3In the mean time: can anyone here tell how stable the emacs 29 versions (from backport, ceres or excalibur) are now ? My try ca. 1 year ago was not a success.00:28
e3d3I tried option "Re-squash and make iso (no-copy)". This ended with a succes dialog, but also didn't make an iso.00:49
e3d3I found the --debug option, that tells that I have a decompression error. In the log I see the line:  gzip: stdin: not in gzip format00:57
e3d3cpio: premature end of archive00:57
gnarfacee3d3: just a guess but maybe you're missing whatever the correct decompression utility is?01:04
gnarfacecould be xz or bz2 or something01:04
gnarfaceneither of those would be installed by default, i don't think01:04
e3d3gnarface: no,  xz-utils & gzip are installed. With the error message I found a forum post from 2020-2024 that seems promising/01:14
e3d3gnarface: ^ I'm trying that now01:14
e3d3and again, now with sudo, --debug & some serious voodoo01:21
e3d3YES ! The voodoo did it; I have an iso. Hope it works also without full moon.01:24
gnarfaceanyone happen to know if this copy of libnvidia-encode1 in devuan-proposed-updates has the fix for NVENC in Steam? https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=libnvidia-encode1=535.161.08-2~deb12u101:47
e3d3gnarface: the changelog.Debian.gz tells "Fixed the NvEncodeAPI driver to correctly reject the encoding of sequences with resolutions smaller than what the NVENC supports."02:06
e3d3I've no idea what it means or considers Steam.02:07
gnarfacehmm02:09
gnarfacedoesn't seem like it is definitely unrelated anyway... an older occurrence of this bug was associated with the hardware encoder getting "tied up" by something non-Steam before Steam could use it...02:11
gnarfacebut that non-Steam thing was the Windows program "GeForce Experience," which isn't on Linux so i don't know02:11
gnarfacehmm....02:12
fsmithrede3d3, I skipped ahead. You probably have zstd compression in your initramfs.02:13
fsmithredthe latest version of refractasnapshot fixes that - it's in excalibur/ceres02:13
e3d3fsmithred: hi, I tried some suggestions I found online, without result. One made an iso, that didn't work, and I couldn't repeat it !?02:14
fsmithredwhat did you try?02:14
e3d3Do I need to install something for this zstd compression02:14
fsmithredI think it's the default in daedalus, and I'm sure it is in excalibur (testing)02:15
e3d3I tried 2 modifications of the script I found here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=376402:15
fsmithredlook in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to see what type of compression is used.02:15
e3d3I started by clicking in the main menu, later I used in a terminal: sudo + --debug option02:16
fsmithredanother workaround is to remove the microcode package before making the snapshot.02:16
fsmithredyeah, I think I made debug the default in the gui version.02:16
fsmithredhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/r/refractasnapshot-base/refractasnapshot-base_10.4.0_all.deb02:18
fsmithred^^^ latest version02:18
e3d3I see (in synaptic) amd64-microcode and intel-microcode, and 2 firmware packages. Which should I remove ?02:18
fsmithredboth microcode packages02:18
fsmithredand iucode-tool will go with the intel02:18
e3d3iucode-tool is still there. Should I remove it also ?02:19
fsmithredif my vote counts for anything, I say keep the microcode and use the new version so you can tell me if it works for  you.02:19
e3d3to late, they are gone02:20
fsmithredunless you happen to be running ubuntu - I know it's not working there02:20
e3d3unless you know some trick with cache or something02:20
fsmithredok, re-squash is the right choice if the filesystem copy is still there.02:20
e3d3The devuan laptop has no internet now02:20
fsmithredok, you can reinstall them later02:21
e3d3I try the sudo --debug again.02:21
fsmithredsometimes you can find previous versions of deb packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/02:22
e3d3I can connect to the internet later but this is good to know. Thanks02:23
e3d3my other brain cell just woke up and told me that I can one of my many usb-stick to transfer the new version from here to the Devuan laptop. Be warned: It late here so the other cell will soon go to sleep.02:27
fsmithrede3d3, did you look to see what compression it's using for initramfs?02:47
fsmithredif it's gz or xz you won't need the new version of snapshot.02:47
fsmithredand I'm going to sleep soon, too.02:47
e3d3I'm having troubles moving the iso to usb, maybe because of FAT. I'll find out. Thanks for helping & good night02:49
gnarfacee3d3: what's the error you get?02:51
e3d3I overlooked your question. I've read some of the code & log file but forgot the details. I remember it used gzip & xz02:51
e3d3I get no error but copying to usb take too long. Now trying with another live distro & more fun.02:52
gnarfaceusb flash is usually pretty slow, you might have just panicked too early02:53
gnarfacetry copying it with something that uses a progress meter02:53
gnarfacethough i didn't follow and i'm puzzled about why you think the filesystem even matters when you're overwriting it... are you sure you weren't supposed to flash the image to the usb directly instead of copying it into the filesystem on the usb?02:54
e3d3I try to simply move it to a USB (fat ?) partition that uses "Ventoy" to multiboot many OS'es02:55
gnarfaceaah. i guess i don't know crap abuot ventoy02:57
e3d3Working with Thunar and Rox-filler is hard, compared with using my prefered Emacs or Ranger :)02:57
e3d3before I used Multisystem for that. Ventoy is easy too: simply move an iso etc to a dedicated folder on USB03:00
e3d3I prefer that instead of overwriting the whole USB stick for one distro.03:02
e3d3the partition is FAT32. I didn't check if my clean Devuan has tools for that installed.03:05
gnarfaceit's in the dosfstools package03:09
rwpI just skimmed the scroll back but data point: If you don't have "zstd" installed then you get this warning when rebuilding the initramfs:03:12
iasghello. I have a deal that i can use with only 3 euros per month for infinite data (cellular) with an extra sim card. is anyone here familiar with how I could get it work?03:13
iasgmy laptop has a sim port03:13
rwpupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.19.0-2-amd64W: No zstd in /usr/bin:/sbin:/bin, using gzip03:13
rwpInstalling "zstd" package provides it and switches from initramfs using gzip to one using zstd.  (And sorry for the mangled two lines.)  W: No zstd in /usr/bin:/sbin:/bin, using gzip03:13
gnarfaceiasg: i vaguely understand that you need one of two major modem handling daemons, and then some front-end software to work with it03:13
gnarfaceiasg: it doesn't happen to be that e25g qucatel modem does it?03:14
gnarfacei think one of the daemons is named ofono and the other is modemmanager?03:14
iasggnarface: no idea what modem it is. how could i check?03:14
e3d3still no success with the iso or copying. The clean Devuan has the dosfstools installed. I found a usb I'll use with 'dd'03:15
gnarfaceiasg: is it usb? then lsusb03:15
iasgit's an elitebook so it has mostly intel stuff03:15
gnarfacee3d3: don't forget conv=fsync status=progress03:15
iasggnarface: no, the sim tray is integrated in the laptop03:15
gnarfaceiasg: lspci?03:15
gnarfacebrb03:15
iasgpaste.debian.net/131719503:17
iasgi believe i can use networkmanager as the front end03:20
iasgbut last tiem i tried it just didn't work03:20
iasgso maybe i'm missing some driver or something backend03:20
iasgi'm a bit tired, thanks for trying to help gnarface. i'll work on it later03:23
iasgsee ya03:23
e3d3rwp: sorry, I overlooked your response. My clean Daedalus already has "zstd" installed in /usr/bin.03:59
e3d3Finally, it took some hours but the snapshot works and is still not overexposed !04:11
e3d3thanks all04:20
ncurs3sWhich uses less memory with stock configuration, openrc or runit?06:28
gnarfaceprobably runit but it's just a guess, and it's probably not much either way...06:39
avbox25When I try to install wireguard, apt wants to install a new kernel, but I want to use my own kernel (wireguard modules I added in .config file for kernel build process). How can one install wireguard with a custom kerne?13:59
djphdoes the *package* actually *depend* on this new kernel?14:02
avbox25Oh, what I see is that I don't need the package wireguard itself, it is enough to install wireguard-tools (if you already included wireguard as a kernel module in your kernel).14:15

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