| brocashelm | e3d3: if you come back, this thread can also be of help: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925 | 01:42 |
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| brocashelm | elogind can be removed and replaced with consolekit2 + seatd for most compatibility layers | 01:43 |
| al1r4d | what is systemd-shim? | 03:08 |
| gnarface | uh.. something from BSD that acts as a systemd compatibility layer without needing actual systemd, i think? | 03:10 |
| gnarface | here we use elogind and eudev instead | 03:11 |
| brocashelm | those are necessary for things like network-manager and kde programs (including plasma) to "work" | 04:35 |
| brocashelm | same as udisks2 and gvfs | 04:35 |
| brocashelm | but you could use udevil (devmon as rootless daemon) in place | 04:35 |
| brocashelm | it's abandoned by the spacefm author (as well as spacefm), but it works as it should | 04:36 |
| omo | which package/s do I have to install to have ntp setting system time? I have installed ntpsec-ntpdate but it didn't ask about time zone and such | 19:44 |
| fsmithred | omo, I think it's just called ntp | 19:45 |
| fsmithred | the one you installed can be used from command-line or in a script. | 19:46 |
| omo | and attempting to set it up within LXQT's tools I get error: "The name org.freedesktop.timedate1 was not provided by any .service files". | 19:46 |
| fsmithred | did you edit the config file to give it some time servers to use? | 19:46 |
| fsmithred | oh, config file is for ntp not ntpsec-ntpdate | 19:47 |
| omo | fsmithred: oh, for ntp apti says "Network Time Protocol daemon/utilities (transitional package)" and hence I thought it is obsolete or going to be. | 19:47 |
| fsmithred | oh, I've only seen that message for ntpdate | 19:48 |
| fsmithred | oh, maybe you're supposed to switch to chrony | 19:48 |
| fsmithred | I have ntpdate set up to sync when the system starts up (in /etc/rc.local) | 19:48 |
| omo | I am used to being ask about time servers and time zones during installation hence no config file edited | 19:49 |
| fsmithred | um, no I don't | 19:49 |
| omo | I just try installing ntp now... | 19:49 |
| fsmithred | you should still be asked about time-zone | 19:49 |
| fsmithred | early in the install | 19:50 |
| omo | didn't ask for anything either, hmm | 19:53 |
| omo | and still: The name org.freedesktop.timedate1 was not provided by any .service files | 19:53 |
| omo | searched for that file on packages.debian.org but no match | 19:53 |
| omo | oh, but the time is displayed coecctly now. | 19:54 |
| omo | yay | 19:54 |
| omo | I'll reboot.... | 19:55 |
| omo | all right, time is displayed correctly. LXQT date and time setting dialogue still not working though. but that is a minor issue now. thanks for your input fsmithred | 19:58 |
| fsmithred | yw | 19:59 |
| fsmithred | sudo ntpdig -S "$timeserver" | 19:59 |
| fsmithred | where is the time setting in lxqt? | 20:03 |
| omo | I have german menu installed, something like: Settings --> LXQT system settings --> Date and Time | 20:05 |
| fsmithred | oh, must be something I did not install. | 20:05 |
| omo | fsmithred: https://www.debugpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/LXQt-0.17-Desktop-.jpg | 20:09 |
| omo | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2770 "That message appears to be referring to a systemd unit file, which won't be started in Devuan for obvious reasons." | 20:11 |
| fsmithred | omo, is that window what comes up when you select Appearance? | 20:12 |
| omo | no, just some random screenshot I found where it shows "Date and Time" on LXQT | 20:13 |
| fsmithred | oh. No Date and Time in my menu. | 20:14 |
| omo | if that dev1galaxy post is correct, LXQT depending on systemd would not be very welcome to me | 20:14 |
| omo | hmm *welcoming? | 20:15 |
| DPA | "The name org.freedesktop.timedate1 was not provided by any .service files." - I'm not entirely sure, but that message could be misleading. I think this is actually referring to dbus services & policies, rather than only systemd services. | 20:16 |
| omo | ahh | 20:17 |
| DPA | I mean, it can also refer to systemd services, and org.freedesktop.timedate1 does seam to be implemented by systemd-timedated, but other dbus programs could implement it as well, without the use of systemd services. | 20:20 |
| omo | https://askubuntu.com/questions/917443/attempting-to-disable-ntp-with-timedatectl-results-in-failed-to-set-ntp-the-na timedatectl is a systemd thingy? | 20:21 |
| DPA | yes | 20:22 |
| fsmithred | ok, I installed lxqt-admin and I can get the same error. | 20:25 |
| fsmithred | sudo ntpdig -S "$timeserver" | 20:27 |
| fsmithred | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (to set the time zone) | 20:27 |
| omo | tzdata! | 20:35 |
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