libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2024-04-21

Harzileinuiui, prechteln, du warst offenbar wirklich angegriffen :D15:06
Harzileinewin15:06
systemdletewould it be advisable, during a dist upgrade, to reboot between the apt upgrade and apt dist-upgrade steps, as instructed in https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera ?23:37
systemdletemy upgrade is (finally!) finishing up the apt upgrade part of the beowulf->chimaera portion on its way to daedalus (I hope to get to daedalus)23:37
systemdleteoh wait... I am upgrading a VM!   So I can snapshot it and try, although I am not sure if other than a successful mid-effort reboot if the system would be stable at that point?23:40
debdogsystemdlete: depends on kernel package you're using. in case a meta package is used, a reboot makes senses23:43
systemdletewhatever the default is23:43
systemdleteI haven't selected any specific kernel package that I am aware of23:44
systemdleteso whatever it was when it was installed23:44
systemdletesorry I can't seem to be more specific23:44
systemdleteI tend to use the generic package rather than a specific release so that kernels will get upgraded without trouble23:45
systemdleteif you "get" what I mean... not sure of the correct nomenclature for this23:45
systemdleteso, I install linux-kernel-amd (or whatever it is)23:46
systemdleterather than linux-kernel-amd-blahblahblahversion23:46
debdogdefault is meta pckage23:46
systemdleteI guess that is a meta package23:46
systemdleteok23:46
systemdleteso a reboot makes sense23:46
debdogmakes sense, but not required23:47
systemdletewell, it just took a day to do that one apt upgrade and I am wondering about ongoing stability23:47
systemdleteI mean, I am not too worried, but I'd hate to lose another day upgrading 868 packages23:48
systemdleteagain23:48
debdogbut then there are kernel dependend drivers, like nvidia stuff. so, in those cases you will prolly like to reboot23:48
systemdleteOK, well I have snapshotted the whole business, so if there is a problem I can get "back"23:48
debdogbut until you reboot, the older modules will be used23:48
systemdleteAfter the apt upgrade completed, I saw some mtp-probe errors on the console23:49
systemdletethat's for, like, android, right?23:49
systemdlete(mtp)23:49
systemdleteso maybe I don't need to worry about those23:49
debdoghmm, IIRC, yes. some smart phone media transfer protocol or such23:50
systemdletealso, debdog, I have needrestart installed, and at the end of the apt upgrade, it is saying that a whole bunch of stuff is out of date23:50
systemdleteso I think rebooting makes a lot of sense23:50
systemdleteI'm going to cold reboot just to ensure that the VM starts clean23:52

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