libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2025-02-22

Xenguythe_emulator, Thanks for the pointer to the lunduke video, I enjoyed it00:05
rrqthe_emulator: note that if your host doesn't have port 80 then it cannot be in the package mirror round-robin00:12
plasma41Who from Devuan talked with Lunduke? In his video, he just says he talked with "the Devuan project" as if we're some sort of hivemind monolith. When Devuan developers have been interviewed in the past, we've tended to make clear that no one individual speaks for the whole project.00:25
golinuxplasma41: They probably contacted Dyne00:48
golinuxI wish that someone would leave a note there that the "No Code of Conduct" was written 10 years ago and has nothing to do with current wokeness.00:50
plasma41I'd prefer Devuan be known as a project with great code and a great community and not as a place to attract people who are anti-"the currently popular political insult".00:55
golinuxAgreed. Thing is his analysis is bogus and should be corrected.01:07
golinuxSadly I don't swim in the current ponds of craziness to debunk his nonsense . . .01:08
flood25hello,  I just set up a mirror for Devuan.      http://uswest.devuan.download/01:11
flood25it's hosted in LA Cali.   Rsync is still syncing the files.01:11
onefangIf these are both package mirrors, then I'm the person to talk with, but stick with the instructions in the walkthrough I posted before.01:22
onefangOn the other hand, it's Saturday morning here, I didn't want to be working this hard during the weekend.  Might take some time for me to get to it.01:23
rrqI think it's iso mirror rather01:25
flood25do you have instructions for setting up a package mirror?01:29
rrqhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt01:29
flood25how much space is recommended01:30
rrqcurrently about <25G is needed01:32
flood25nevermind01:32
flood25the docs says 60gb01:32
flood25thats good it's only 25gb right now01:32
* golinux was just going to post that link . . .01:33
golinuxMost of our packages come directly from Debian . . .01:33
flood25so if i'm hosting the ISOs right now do I need to put it on a different path01:34
flood25or could it be synced under the same directory path01:34
golinuxhttps://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt01:34
flood25I've followed those instructions already01:35
golinuxOK.01:35
flood25for the mirrors.txt file01:35
flood25i imagine it's going to take a while for rsync to complete01:35
flood25I'm going to setup another one in New Jersey..  useast.devuan.download01:36
golinuxI am just the 'librarian'01:36
flood25don't sell yourself short01:36
golinuxYour contributions are appreciated!01:36
flood25thanks01:37
rrqyour deb.devuan.org virtual host needs URL handling for "/merged/*" "/DEVUAN/*" and "/DEBIAN/*" .. there's good instructions for that setup01:38
rrqwell, I think they are good :)01:38
rrqyou may have the actual directory mixed with the ISO mirror if you like, but then youc ant use --delete when refreshing the package mirror01:39
flood25ok01:43
* bb|hcb watching the lunduke video...07:18
bb|hcbIt is very distrurbing that common sense stuff needs to be repeated and emphasized on... The world seems going south07:20
the_emulator rrq: thanks for the info, will try to get my ISP to make me have an IP with those ports. However if they can't get me one, can't the round robin just use IPv6? Because I have full accesss to an IPv6 address, as they are not scarce.10:36
rrqbb|hcb: does the RR scripting handle ipv6-only service ?10:39
gnu_srsHowdy. I'm trying to port seatd to GNU/Hurd. In contact with the seatd author, he mentioned that Devuan patched Xorg server to support seatd.11:34
gnu_srsAre these patches upstreamed? I found the following link, from 2022:  https://git.devuan.org/devuan/xorg-server/src/branch/suites/experimental/debian/patches/0001-Support-libseat.patch11:34
gnu_srsIn case the patches are not applied upstream, can I patch Xorg server  from Debian sources, or can I download the patched Devuan Xorg source somewhere?11:34
rrqthe devuan project is fork off debian's salsa project, and tracking that, with the addition of that patch for seatd integration.12:07
rrqit's using an "quilt" package building applying patches before compiling and reverse-patching afterwards12:09
rrqare you looking for a once-off build or an ongoing maintenance?12:09
bb|hcbrrq: It should, unless there is some (undiscovered) bug12:50
rrqok so the_emulator may provide an ipv6 package mirror without an ipv4 one12:53
bb|hcbFrom the mirror list the domain part is used to resolve to v4 and/or v6 and whatever found goes in the RR. The RR zone has a *.deb fallback, so it will work12:59
rrqhmm only if ipv4 doesn't resolve? or does it check for http service?13:06
rrqI suppose the advice will need to be to have ipv6 only domain name13:12
rrq(since here the_emulator is not in control of the ipv4 http port)13:13
bb|hcbCNAME can not have multiple entries, while A/AAAA can...13:18
bb|hcbSo CC.deb.devuan.org is CNAME to CC.deb.rr.devuan.org and only the rr.devuan.org zone is frequently refreshed13:20
bb|hcbThe plan is apt-panopticon to check which service is OK and which is not and to generate the mirror list with the domain, supported country codes, works/fails flag and include in RR and RR-CC flags.13:22
bb|hcbThe automation script is quite dumb, resolving the domains to ips and generating the rr.devuan.org zone13:23
rrqright; we wouldn't want to check on the ipv4 http service at all in this case so a domain that only has ipv6 is needed13:23
bb|hcbCurrently onefang is managing the flags manually13:24
bb|hcbBTW. What is the_emulator? It seems I missed something... :)13:24
rrqnot what; who :)13:24
rrqthey are setting up a mirror, but have reduced ipv413:25
rrqsome VPS hosting that partitions the port range it seems13:26
rrqthough has ipv6 with full port range13:27
bb|hcbOh, ok, ok. Saw that...13:27
gnu_srs(12:10:39) rrq: are you looking for a once-off build or an ongoing maintenance? I'm trying to make seatd work on Hurd. I'll use the patch to build an updated xorg server to see15:06
gnu_srshow it goes.15:06
golinux<plasma41> Who from Devuan talked with Lunduke?17:04
golinuxJaromil!17:04
golinuxThe Devuan 2024 financial report has been posted!20:40
golinuxhttps://www.devuan.org/os/announce/report/devuan_financial_report_2024.pdf20:40
golinuxThanks to everyone who has contributed towards helping to pay the bills for Devuan's infrastructure costs!20:40
masonLunduke supporting Devuan is not in Devuan's best interests.22:39
Xenguymason, Why do you say that, I'm not familiar with this guy?23:02
masonXenguy: He used to be content exploring technology, but lately I guess he's decided he gets more money out of being a right-wing talk radio personality that focusses on technology.23:22
golinuxRead the #devuan-dev scrollback23:22
bb|hcbI think that we should not care who likes and who hates Devuan. Our focus should be Devuan itself, not all the gossip around it23:52

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