libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2024-08-22

masontempforever: o/01:15
masontempforever: I sent you one email and I'm sending another now. Probably a good idea for both of us to be in tomorrow's meeting if you're free.01:15
golinuxWeekly Devuan meet 2024-08-22  @20:30 UTC06:56
golinuxpad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/zk-DG1+JW+tdkUPIykbFjGLv/06:56
golinuxhttps://vdc.dyne.org/devuan06:56
golinuxSee you there!06:56
masongolinux: Thank you.16:34
fsmithredmason, you were asking about iso naming for early testing isos. Here are a couple old names.16:54
fsmithreddevuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20220502_amd64_netinstall.iso16:54
fsmithreddevuan_daedalus_5.0.preview_20220506_amd64_desktop-live.iso16:54
masonfsmithred: Do we like preview then? My main goal is to never have someone have an image sitting around that was from before release and mistakenly think it's a release image.16:55
masonPreview does that nicely.16:55
masonI'm inclined to add the two digit serial (ala BIND) to the ISO 8601 date so multiple builds in a day can be distinguished. (So, in that case, 2022050600 instead of 20220506.)16:56
fsmithredthat's a good idea. refractasnapshot uses -<date>_<time>16:57
masonEven more detailed! But slightly more characters.17:05
masonI'm game for whatever really. I'm going to try to make it to today's meeting, and I believe tempforever is going to try as well.17:05
fsmithredcool17:31
fsmithredCan the serial naming be done automatically, or do you have to edit a file every time?17:32
masonfsmithred: It'll be automatable. My initial pass at ISO generation didn't include it at all, so I need to see what rrq has set up on the formal build servers. And I need to kick off a build and get the ISOs out there.17:49
masonVaguely related, it's probably worth verifying that we're not shipping our own signed GRUB, re: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/70348.html17:50
masonI don't think we are but I know we do some customization. My current unverified belief is that we're just customizing config.17:50
fsmithredafaik we don't have our own signed grub and don't fork any part of grub.18:00
fsmithredI'm heading outside. See you later.18:00
masono/18:06
plasma41mason: Might I suggest an iso8601.buildnumber naming scheme? For example a hypothetical 3rd build today would be 20240822.3.22:23
plasma41See also https://www.devuan.org/os/filenaming22:25
masonOh, are we ... almost time for the meeting?22:25
plasma41Indeed22:26
masonI was deep into something and almost missed it.22:26
masonplasma41: Yeah, that's fine. I'd tend towards two digits for sortability and given the notion that I'll ~never need to make more than 100 changes in a day, but making 10 changes is conceivable.22:27
masonThe dot separator is fine too. I was just modelling BIND zones.22:27
plasma41Source for that page: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/www.devuan.org/src/branch/new-beta/source/os/filenaming.html Can be useful to see how that document evolved.22:33
fsmithredI'm all alone. Am I in the wrong place?22:33
fsmithredIt's 20:35UTC. Do you know where your devs are?22:35
bgstack15there's a bunch of us here in the redirected room from the link from the email22:37
bgstack15https://vdc.dyne.org/devuan22:38
fsmithredyeah, that's where I went and I get redirected to hamburg22:40
bgstack15a previous netinstall I've got and have used is devuan_excalibur_6.0-202404131323_amd64_netinstall.iso22:46
Xenguymason, Not sure if the meeting is still ongoing, but I added a quick question on the PAD for you22:54
masonXenguy: it is going22:57
masonlooking22:57
masonXenguy: Just answered.22:59
Xenguymason, Perfect, thanks23:21

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