libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2024-06-11

rrq$11:38
LeePenrrq: £11:51
rrq11:53
helios21Who knows how much longer… for €.11:54
joergindeed12:26
fsmithredI guess I mis-read that. I was going to offer rrq one of my unused variables.12:42
rrqas for minutae: I'm have a horizontal split qterminal with irssi above and mutt below, and sometimes I confuse where kb focus is. Though usually I catch it before pushing "enter". but I'd appreciate any odd unused variable anyhow :)12:48
fsmithred¥¥¥¥¥  <- grab some of these instead.12:49
onefangCan I have the even ones rrq isn't using?12:52
rrqother thing: is zfs-fuse as good choice as zfs-dkms?12:53
rrq(as filesystem within a luks encrypted nbd)12:54
rrqas->for a12:55
fsmithredmason might know12:56
CueXXIIIzfs-dkms is zfs upstream, no idea if zfs-fuse is feature complete, too. and it would run in user space and require context switching through the kernel to pass the data to processes using the filesystem14:14
rrqperformance would be worse, yes. how much though? I've also "worried about kernel14:17
rrqlockup if the nbd falls out14:18
rrqthe dm layer for encryption is already a concern; two kernel modules might hold on to each other and force a reboot.. all that is easier to recover from with userland s/w14:21
rrqI'm also thinking that the slow bit here is the network.14:26
CueXXIIIyeah, i have no idea about the actual performance, you could run some benchmarks…14:30
rrqknowing very little about zfs, I'm only using it for compression and deduplication14:44
rrqand probably for snapshots (eventually)14:46
siewcarrq: You can use zfs-dkms as regular solution and zfs-fuse as backup, when after kernel upgrade dkms will fail for any reason.15:00
rrqinteroperable.. that's good15:02
* mason perks up hours later. Reading.20:34
masonrrq: zfs-fuse, unless something radical has changed, is very much out of date. zfs-dkms is the safer, more maintained bet. What I do here, though, to avoid the carbon impact of building it on every system, is to just build the binary packages and distribute them via a local repository.20:35
masonI haven't refreshed this for some time now, but a snapshot of my stuff as it existed recent is here: https://github.com/ChibaPet/bliss-zfs20:36
masonrecently*20:36
masonI want to make it a bit more automated in several respects, as I build it by hand now. Once I have that done I'll publish a new suite of information and tooling.20:37
masonOne such goal is to get it building in Jenkins, kicked off by Gitea Actions. As in, see a new kernel published, use automation to update the overall and per-kernel metapackages, publish that, have Jenkins triggered to build it and populate the local repo.20:39
masonThat way you never need fear a broken DKMS build rendering you unbootable.20:39
rrqmason: thanks. vary good. I'll have a peek (though not fan of touching microsoft)22:33

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