libera/#devuan-dev/ Monday, 2024-04-08

joergCueXXIII: I'd like to see such a thing01:43
brocashelmtw1.mirror.blendbyte.net _still_ fails05:48
XenguyFails how brocashelm ?  Seems to be resolving here in my browser05:55
brocashelm40405:58
brocashelmsame as debian.bio.lmu.de05:59
brocashelmoh. those block vpns? talk about bollocks05:59
Xenguybrocashelm, It may be 404 for you, but it is resolving fine for me05:59
XenguyI have no idea06:00
brocashelmturning off my vpn "resolved"06:01
XenguyIf VPN is the problem, perhaps best to test without one before reporting an issue I suppose06:01
XenguyNo worries06:01
brocashelmthe first url generally fails, with or without vpn06:01
XenguyWhich URL?06:02
brocashelmfirst url = tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net06:02
XenguyThat is resolving fine here (I don't use a VPN ever)06:02
onefangThe two currently running apt-panopticans say that tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net is not currently having any problem, though it's weekly online stat is currently 97.42%.  High 90's is acceptable.06:13
onefanghttp://veritas.devuan.org is one of those, I guess it's not using a VPN.  The other is my server, no VPN.06:14
onefangdevuan.bio.lmu.de is what the package mirror is listed as, not debian.bio.lmu.de.06:15
onefangAlso passing the tests.06:15
onefangOops, both are 100% online weekly stat, the updated stat for both is in the high 90s.06:16
CueXXIIIhm, blendbyte fails for me, too: https://www.oetec.com/pastebin/plain/bXnGPAHY06:17
onefangOn my home desktop, which IS using a VPN (OpenVPN to my server) all three work fine.06:19
CueXXIIIah, the BaseURL is not / but /devuan. so that mirror should work, but not as a round robin for deb.devuan.org06:23
CueXXIIIyep, "deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net/devuan//merged ceres main contrib non-free non-free-firmware" works for me06:25
onefangWhy not as a round robin for deb.devuan.org?  Those two are passing those tests to.06:26
onefangA lot of the package mirrors are /devuan.06:27
CueXXIIIthe config for the round-robins is "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main" as per web page, is is missing the /devuan part06:28
CueXXIIIunless the server is configured to have a different configuration for that host name06:29
onefangWhich is why we instruct package mirrors that want to be part of the DNS-RR to configure their web server to work around that.  Works fine.06:29
onefangAnd also why I don't put new mirrors onto the DNS-RR until after they have passed apt-panopticon for a week.06:29
onefanghttp://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html  https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html  Stuff I wrote to keep an eye on the Devuan package mirrors, in case you didn't know.06:30
CueXXIIIthen i can't see any issue with blendbytes06:31
onefangMight just be a local DNS issue.06:31
onefangOh wait, 404 isn't DNS.  lol06:33
Unit193...No, NXDOMAIN is kinda that.06:34
XenguyI assume it's just some temporary routing issue, which can happen06:39
XenguyIf it failed consistently though, that would be odd06:39
onefangWhich is why I'm OK with mirrors having weekly stats in the high 90s, and why I collect those stats.  Shit happens.06:40
brocashelmi wish we could select certain mirrors if we wanted a round-robin06:40
onefangCountry codes are working again now.  Would that help?06:41
brocashelmwhy can't apt-get be written better to randomly select between two or more mirrors so that if one fails, the other is a fallback?06:44
onefangAsk Debian.06:45
brocashelminstead of checking ALL the mirrors at once when running update06:45
Xenguyre: country codes:  e.g. this page:  https://www.devuan.org/os/packages.html06:46
brocashelmdidn't know about us.deb.devuan.org06:47
brocashelmthat might work06:47
brocashelmstill had one failure on attempt with us.deb.devuan.org (no vpn), but next attempt went through07:00
brocashelmwhat this tells me is some mirrors don't get along07:00
onefangI haven't added CC testing to apt-panopticon yet, but it's on the TODO list.07:07
onefangAh, IPv6 / IPv4 might be an issue.  I haven't hooked up IPv6 to my new home yet, so maybe it's failing for IPv6?  This is why I usually ask "What IP did the DNS-RR give you this time?".  Helps to track down which server it was that time if you know the IP it used then.07:11
onefangAlso the Internet can be weird.  bb|hcb told me that their India package mirror is being moved, so I disabled it in the DNS-RR and mirror list.  But one apt-panopticon instance keeps telling me it's been up all this time, the other says it's been down the entire time.  lol07:15
onefangMeh, apt-panopticon is alpha quality still, says so at the top and bottom of the reports.  So I'm happy if people find new ways for mirrors to fail that I'm not testing for.07:17
onefangWe just gotta figure out exactly what is failing and why, so I can write test code for it.07:18
onefangOh BTW, I recently discovered that Debian has something similar to apt-panopticon.  Though mine is specific to Devuan, but another TODO item is to look at theirs.07:20
brocashelmcool07:20
onefangOops, should have been a TODO item.  Will be in a minute.  lol07:23
bb|hcbonefang: That is definitely down, please check the instance that claims it is up...11:10
onefangHmmm, might be some sort of heisenbug in apt-panopticon.  Now that I started poking around, they both agree.  lol11:18
onefangI'll poke at it tomorrow.11:19

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