| bgstack15 | Devuan meet tomorrow, Thursday, September 28, at 20:30 UTC. Pad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/ksM6D2HzJU7LmZEm0ZmuzlyM/ | 14:31 |
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| micdud | can i come ? | 14:52 |
| Xenguy | micdud, Anyone is welcome | 15:22 |
| micdud | even Lennart and Bill ? | 15:59 |
| fsmithred | Bill might say something useful. | 16:03 |
| golinux | That would be a first | 16:04 |
| micdud | is there packages included in devuan that are not in debian ? | 16:05 |
| fsmithred | a few | 16:06 |
| fsmithred | refractainstaller, refractasnapshot, cryptdisk-modified-functions, fontsnaps | 16:07 |
| fsmithred | sure what else | 16:07 |
| fsmithred | NOT sure... | 16:08 |
| micdud | can i add nfs-kernel-server4 , that disables portmap and changes mountd to not listen , only one port nfsv4 operation | 16:09 |
| fsmithred | I don't know. We don't have an official policy on adding packages, and we generally avoid doing it. | 16:11 |
| fsmithred | We fork packages only if they require systemd. | 16:12 |
| fsmithred | and FTR, I don't actually understand what you said. | 16:12 |
| micdud | nfs-kernel-server has too many legacy servers listening on the network ports, and no easy way to disable portmap when only using nfsv4 | 16:14 |
| micdud | simply diabling portmap will not let you start nfs-kernel-server even if its only v4 operation | 16:15 |
| fsmithred | won't /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server let you do what you want? | 16:18 |
| fsmithred | looks like you can set the number of servers to start and also set a port | 16:18 |
| micdud | no, if portmap is disabled , /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server wont start , and i have an extra /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server4 | 16:19 |
| micdud | basicaly it sits on top of nfs-kernel-server and disables v2 and v3 functionality to keep it simple and secure to only one port or a few more if using kerberos | 16:31 |
| micdud | 17:43 | |
| micdud | PS: not a fork just an extra package | 17:43 |
| DFP | Why not add it to Debian then? | 17:47 |
| micdud | been using devuan since the schism, so not enough expeience with systemd | 17:48 |
| DFP | Do they require systemd init scripts? Sorry if I am out of the loop. | 17:52 |
| DFP | https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#starting-system-services | 17:58 |
| DFP | Seems like you could have a package with only plain old init scripts. | 17:59 |
| micdud | so back to the initial question , would this be something devuan be interested in | 18:01 |
| bb|hcb | DFP: That is not right, new packages that provide system services will not be accepted without a systemd unit in Debian | 18:26 |
| bb|hcb | s/right/true | 18:26 |
| bb|hcb | micdud: I also think that it would be better to patch nfs-utils (source package of nfs-kernel-server) and include the functionality there. The most important part in this is not to break existing systems with some nfs setup | 18:30 |
| micdud | so bark it up to debian ? | 18:31 |
| bb|hcb | Yes, it will come to Devuan, if accepted. | 18:33 |
| micdud | ps it would not break anything, just allow for nfsv4 only setups when wanted | 18:34 |
| bb|hcb | BTW, IMHO a new service most probably will not be accepted; an additional option maybe will. | 18:36 |
| micdud | fine, ill take my patch and just go home! :) | 18:38 |
| bb|hcb | And the important deps in this case are: nfs-kernel-server -> nfs-common -> rpcbind (which provides portmap), so getting rid of rpcbind will not be possible without modifying many other parts. I have no idea if rpcbind supports disabling it | 18:38 |
| micdud | rpcbind just gets disabled, not uninstaled with the nf-kernel-servver4 | 18:41 |
| micdud | and reenambled if nfs-kernel-servver4 is uninstalled | 18:42 |
| bb|hcb | micdud: Sorry if what I said sounded discouraging to you, I only tried to show a path how to make it happen... | 18:43 |
| * bb|hcb afk | 18:43 | |
| micdud | i have been using this settup for a while on nfsv4 only network for a while , kerberos or not without issues ... | 18:50 |
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