| rrq | fsmithred: preview-20230508_amd64_netinstall gave me lightdm | 01:57 |
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| golinux | So where is slim? :( | 01:58 |
| rrq | hmm, yes, teh depends entry is "slim | lightdm" so slim should have been preferred | 02:04 |
| bgstack15 | doesn't this fallback behavior happen when the first one is uninstallable? Maybe slim has some broken deps at the moment? | 02:05 |
| rrq | will see what "server" does, once my ISP serves me the bits... | 02:07 |
| rrq | (or maybe I need "desktop" really) | 02:09 |
| golinux | I just left a note for Rob Pierce on git regarding slim's readiness for primetime . . . | 02:14 |
| golinux | According to fsr, slim is set in desktop-base so might not interact with a server install | 02:16 |
| golinux | Seems he is mostly afk this weekend so a definitive answer might have to wait. | 02:18 |
| rrq | preview-20230508_amd64_desktop installation without package mirror gives me lightdm as well; I'll see what some preinstall pinning might do | 03:06 |
| rrq | preview-20230508_amd64_desktop installation with lightdm pinned (asap) to -1 gives me slim | 03:24 |
| rrq | apparently some package other than task-xfce-desktop overrides/outruns its preferential dependency choice | 03:26 |
| rrq | unless apt's logic has changed to use alphabetical rather than option order | 03:27 |
| rrq | (for example) | 03:28 |
| rrq | perhaps the choice is due to "provider of x-display-manager", which applies ascii-alphabetical order | 03:32 |
| fsmithred | I got lightdm in live-sdk too. And I saw that it's "slim|lightdm" so that's why I asked. | 03:39 |
| fsmithred | So in live-sdk I specified slim in the package list, right before task-xfce-desktop, and I still got lightdm. | 03:40 |
| rrq | .. and by debtree, "lightdm" is further away from "task-xfce-desktop" than "slim"... | 03:41 |
| fsmithred | weird. The live-iso doesn't even have slim installed. I'd have to go back and look at the logs to see if it got installed and removed. | 03:42 |
| fsmithred | oh, and there's no sapphire ligntdm bg. <-- golinux | 03:43 |
| fsmithred | greeter-sapphire-wide-large.png and greeter-sapphire-narrow-large.png are missing | 03:45 |
| rrq | x-display-manager", which applies ascii-alphabetical order | 03:48 |
| rrq | oops. | 03:48 |
| rrq | x-display-manager only comes via cinnamon-core or lxqt so that wouldn't apply for xfce | 03:49 |
| rrq | is gksu available for daedalus? | 03:51 |
| fsmithred | slim did get installed according to the log. So did lightdm. | 03:51 |
| fsmithred | no, gksu has been gone for a long time | 03:52 |
| fsmithred | I can't tell where slim got removed, but it's not in the final iso. | 03:54 |
| fsmithred | anyway, I need to sleep. Maybe I'll try putting slim after task-xfce-destkop. If that doens't work, I'll add lightdm to the purge_packages list. | 03:55 |
| fsmithred | but I still want the lightdm bg files for desktop-base, please golinux | 03:55 |
| fsmithred | g'night | 03:55 |
| rrq | slim is on the desktop installer-iso, but lightdm got preferred | 03:55 |
| rrq | night | 03:56 |
| fsmithred | just started a build. I'll play with it in the morning. If you want to look, it's in the amd64-livebld, but it's i386 iso. I'm doing all in one place lately. Right now I forget why, but there was a good reason. | 03:59 |
| fsmithred | see you on the other side | 03:59 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah, I had to build new chimaera isos and I only wanted to upload files once. | 04:00 |
| brocashelm | rrq: you could use lxqt-sudo in place | 04:10 |
| brocashelm | lxsu also works to call that prompt | 04:10 |
| brocashelm | e.g. lxsu synaptic | 04:11 |
| rrq | thanks; though trying to work out why a pristine task-xfce-desktop installation gains lightdm rather than slim | 04:11 |
| rrq | or possibly it gains both, and then lightdm overrides due to alphabetical order | 04:12 |
| rrq | (or something) | 04:13 |
| rrq | task-xfce-desktop dep=> xfce4 dep=> xfce4-session rec=> (light-locker|...) dep=> lightdm | 04:39 |
| rrq | and that precedes: task-xfce-desktop dep=> ( slim | lightdm ) | 04:41 |
| rrq | perhaps helped by reordering, so that: [task-xfce-desktop dep=> ( slim | lightdm ), xfce4] rathr than as now: [task-xfce-desktop dep=> xfce4, ( slim | lightdm )] | 04:43 |
| golinux | slim | 04:59 |
| golinux | OOps | 04:59 |
| golinux | Just read that lightdm needs sapphire styling. UGH. I hope I can get it together . . . | 05:04 |
| golinux | Took a look and see they are already there. | 05:08 |
| golinux | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/05-daedalus-sapphire/lightdm-greeter-backgrounds.tar.gz | 05:08 |
| golinux | How did you miss that? Or is something woring with them . . . | 05:09 |
| golinux | fsmithred: ^^^ | 05:09 |
| golinux | Also . . . apologoes for misspelling Rob's name earlier. It is Pearce not Pierce | 05:15 |
| fsmithred | golinux, I found those files and added them to desktop-base. I did rename them so that they are similar to the deepsea greeter names, so that I didn't have to change the code. (i.e. I already replaced deepsea with sapphire in several places.) | 13:56 |
| fsmithred | But I don't know what to do with the 1080p file. | 13:56 |
| fsmithred | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/desktop-base/src/branch/suites/unstable/backgrounds | 13:58 |
| fsmithred | making progress - if I list slim after task-xfce-desktop then slim is installed in the iso. Unfortunately, so is lightdm and lightdm is the one that gets used. I wll add it to the purge list. | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | I just noticed that intel and amd64 microcode packages are in the purge list. I don't recall why they are there. Can anyone think of a reason we shouldn't include those in the desktop-live? | 14:59 |
| fsmithred | The minimal-live does surgery on the initramfs, so they probably shouldn't be included there. | 14:59 |
| rrq | I'm checking the variant of moving the (slim|lightdm) dependency entry up for task-xfce-desktop, to be first dependency entry... slightly cumbersomme to setup the test though | 15:19 |
| fsmithred | fixing it there will fix it everywhere, not just the live isos. | 15:28 |
| rrq | yes; if that solves it | 15:29 |
| fsmithred | building with lightdm in purge list - it's squashing now | 15:29 |
| fsmithred | biab | 15:30 |
| rrq | it seems that elevating that (slim|lightdm) dependecy for task-exfce-desktop to highest lexical prominence (i.e. top of its list) the installation offers an extra dialog for selecting lightdm or slim | 16:45 |
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