| rrq | does lxqt have something same as "Run Program" button a in xfce? | 01:16 |
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| fsmithred | rrq, I can't find a Run dialog in lxqt. I think lxde has one. | 01:29 |
| fsmithred | In lxde it's in the lxpanel menu, between Preferences and Logout | 01:31 |
| rrq | aha.. I can remove the "OnlyRunIn" line in xfce4-run.desktop and then it turns up in Accessories ... | 01:34 |
| rrq | hmm no that wasn't the thing I wanted | 01:35 |
| rrq | I want a "launcher button" in the panel where I basically get a menu that I can add arbitrary programs into | 01:36 |
| fsmithred | are you in xfce or lxqt? | 01:38 |
| rrq | lxqt | 01:38 |
| fsmithred | I'm really surprised they don't have it. It's the same devs as lxde. | 01:39 |
| rrq | i does have "Application Launc Bar", but that doesn't let me add my programs, and it doesn't show up as menu | 01:39 |
| rrq | maybe it's a special "xfce4 panel" thingy? | 01:53 |
| fsmithred | You can add an individual launcher to the desktop and enter a command, but then it's a button that always runs that same command. | 01:53 |
| fsmithred | yeah, in xfce, I think it's just part of the applications menu in the panel. | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | It's like that in icewm, too. | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | well, there it's just a text-entry box in the panel | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | if i remember correctly. | 01:55 |
| fsmithred | and it's also built into lxde's panel. | 01:56 |
| fsmithred | in the apps menu | 01:56 |
| rrq | yeah; I want to have a menu with buttons for my commands :) | 01:58 |
| fsmithred | huh? | 01:59 |
| fsmithred | you want to add apps to the regular apps menu? | 02:00 |
| fsmithred | I thought you just wanted a text-entry box to run a command. | 02:00 |
| rrq | well; I want to run programs via button clicks :) | 02:01 |
| fsmithred | oh, just make a .desktop file for it and it should magically appear in the apps menu. | 02:01 |
| rrq | yes; though need to place that file in some system dir then.. | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | and in lxqt you can add a quicklaunch widget to the panel and put icons there | 02:05 |
| rrq | hmm quicklaunch widget? | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | the .desktop files should all be in /usr/share/applications or else in your home | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | yeah, right-click panel | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | Manage widgets | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | add quicklaunch | 02:06 |
| rrq | might be a recommends? I don;t see it | 02:07 |
| fsmithred | and then I think you right-click on the widget to edit it - I think I just added launchers to it and configured them separately. | 02:07 |
| fsmithred | do you see other widgets to select? Application menu is the first one in the list here. | 02:07 |
| rrq | yes I have a panel with stuff and I can open "panel preferences" | 02:08 |
| rrq | but no Manage Widgets among "available plugins" | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | I found the run dialog | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | ready for this? Open a terminal and run lxqt-runner | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | lol | 02:10 |
| fsmithred | that's not the quicklaunch | 02:10 |
| fsmithred | from panel preferences, there should be a tab on the left for widgets | 02:10 |
| rrq | in "Panel Applets" tab | 02:11 |
| rrq | I need to install lqxt-runner I guess | 02:12 |
| fsmithred | I don't think that will give you the quicklaunch widget. | 02:12 |
| fsmithred | that gives you a Run (text-entry) | 02:13 |
| fsmithred | you seem to be in a different place | 02:13 |
| fsmithred | when I right-click on the panel, I get a menu with two main headings - Task Manager and Panel | 02:14 |
| rrq | ok no I didn't get any new "Available plugins" | 02:14 |
| fsmithred | under Panel is Configure Panel | 02:14 |
| fsmithred | and Widgets | 02:15 |
| fsmithred | sorry, Manage Widgets | 02:15 |
| rrq | hmm lxqt? I have "Panel Settings" only .. on right-click | 02:15 |
| rrq | or "Create new panel" | 02:16 |
| rrq | and that settings has a "Panel Applets" tab | 02:16 |
| rrq | hmm but package lxqt-panel i not installed ??? | 02:18 |
| rrq | I seem to have lxpanel rather ? | 02:19 |
| fsmithred | what version of lxqt do you have? | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | 30ubuntu1 here (lubuntu 22.04) | 02:21 |
| rrq | I just installed lxqt (no recommends) .. but I did install lxde ome moons ago | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | in chimaera? | 02:22 |
| rrq | yes | 02:22 |
| rrq | looks like lxpanel is from that lxde installation ... I might try to clean up a bit and then I'll come back | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | wait | 02:24 |
| rrq | ok? | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | in lxpanel, add an application launchbar to the panel | 02:25 |
| fsmithred | then add programs to that. | 02:25 |
| fsmithred | the .desktop files must exist in /usr/share/applications and you'll see them in the list. | 02:25 |
| rrq | yes, but that doesn;t make a menu.. it shows all options in the pane; | 02:25 |
| rrq | panel | 02:25 |
| fsmithred | I think I'm confusing terms | 02:26 |
| fsmithred | now I understand what you want. It's something I always avoid doing in xfce. You want one button with a drop-down menu with icons | 02:27 |
| fsmithred | in xfce you can add multiple programs to a single launcher | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | I always make a separate launcher for each program | 02:28 |
| rrq | yes; very handy... it actually makes separate .desktop files for each .. all in the users .config area | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | yeah, you can have the .desktop files locally | 02:30 |
| rrq | then I can grab those .desktop files and easily pollute other systems via scp | 02:30 |
| fsmithred | in lxqt, the quicklaunch shows multiple icons in the panel, just like lxde | 02:30 |
| rrq | ok :( | 02:31 |
| rrq | perhaps I can use xfce panel ... but that's not a very clean DE :( | 02:32 |
| rrq | or I can do some tcl/tk hacking for meown menu | 02:33 |
| rrq | also not very clean... | 02:33 |
| fsmithred | or yad with some shell scripting | 02:34 |
| fsmithred | easy to make a popup menu that has word list | 02:34 |
| fsmithred | and just click the one you want | 02:34 |
| fsmithred | there might be an easy way to hack lxqt for an addition menu with just a few apps. | 02:35 |
| fsmithred | additional | 02:35 |
| rrq | yeah in any case I should probably clean out all lxde and only have lxqt .. to reduce my own confusions at least | 02:35 |
| brocashelm | doesn't yad rely on gtk? | 02:39 |
| fsmithred | oh, yeah it does. | 02:40 |
| brocashelm | on an lxqt system, i would try to prefer qt versions of software whenever possible | 02:40 |
| fsmithred | shit | 02:40 |
| fsmithred | ok, there's KDialog | 02:43 |
| brocashelm | that's probably the best one | 02:45 |
| brocashelm | also, i think openbox is the default wm for lxqt, but it's gtk | 02:46 |
| brocashelm | i guess kwin would fit the bill? | 02:46 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I see a lot of gtk libs in lubuntu-lxqt | 02:49 |
| brocashelm | i think you can be completely gtk-free with tde | 02:49 |
| brocashelm | they have their own qt fork | 02:49 |
| * rrq back; now with lxqt(openbox) | 02:52 | |
| rrq | .. totally new/different ... cluttering the desktop with gumpf | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | ok, time to go watch Twilight Zone, then I'm off to bed. Have fun. | 03:01 |
| rrq | thanks. yes the first is to flip out of that black-ish look | 03:02 |
| brocashelm | isn't trying out a new DE/WM like stepping into one? | 03:03 |
| rrq | :) does feel twilighty yes | 03:09 |
| brocashelm | i mentioned about another DE in the pad for today's meet that there is a mate fork called cafe and a gtk3 fork called ctk, which appears to have some actual mitigations/fixes put into effort | 03:11 |
| brocashelm | there are also deb files provided by the author | 03:11 |
| golinux | brocashelm: You are persistent . . . Maybe you should be pleading to Debian . . . | 03:24 |
| brocashelm | it's a discussion on something that could be of interest down the road | 03:30 |
| brocashelm | persistent is telling people not to quote forum posts "to save bits" | 03:30 |
| bb|hcb | Adding a package to Debian requires a person/group to maintain it. It is not a oneshot activity. The rest are details that may not be easy to get right at first, but quite doable, provided here are enough people who can help with that | 03:34 |
| bb|hcb | Thus pleading will almost certainly not work ;) | 03:35 |
| brocashelm | fair enough, i'll try the RFP route | 03:39 |
| bb|hcb | Since the upstream is already making debs, wouldn't it be a better approach to collaborate with them and make the packaging? | 03:45 |
| rrq | ok, howto "focus follows mouse" on lqxt(openbox) ? | 03:59 |
| rrq | aha obconf-qt | 04:01 |
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