libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2023-01-25

bgstack15Where are the mailing list archives now? https://mailinglists.dyne.org/pipermail/devuan-dev/ is 40416:29
fsmithred_bgstack15, https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-dev.en.html16:50
bgstack15Thanks, fsmithred_! We need to get certain pages updated. Our page https://www.devuan.org/os/community links to https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-dev which links to the 404-ing Archives page.16:53
golinuxhttps://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/dng@20380101.000000.00000000.en.html17:07
golinuxProbably need to be changed on the website too17:07
golinuxXenguy: ^^^17:08
golinuxbgstack15: Thanks for finding that! :)17:08
golinuxI have always used that address17:09
golinuxAnd also https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/devuan-dev@20380101.000000.00000000.en.html17:09
XenguySounds like mailing list migration woes17:17
fsmithred_I use this one for dng: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html17:42
golinuxXenguy: Pipermail has been mia for a very long time.18:03
golinuxDyne still hosts the dng list and the mail archives.18:04
golinuxdevuan-dev has been migrated. At least that's how I  understand things . . .18:05
XenguyLooks like a search/replace operation, so I would just need the canonical URL to use to replace18:07
XenguySeems like fsmithred_ has one18:07
XenguyThanks for the bug report bgstack1518:07
amesserLeePenn: are you there?19:05
LeePenamesser: Hi19:07
amesserHi! Hope you're well!19:10
LeePenOK thanks, and you?19:11
LeePenThanks for the new apt and libvirt19:11
amesserI got an email related to libvirtd with missing symbol in lxc/fuse3. It seemed to me, that libvirtd was build for testing,experimental against fuse3 3.13.0-119:12
amesserBut in testing we have only fuse3 3.12.0-1 in the repos?19:12
amesserI just got back from work by bike. (Midlife Crisis sports :-D)19:13
LeePen:)19:13
amesserBut besides that im fine.  Thanks!19:13
LeePenLet me look. It might need a binNMU/binary rebuild -- which we can now do!19:13
amesser(I also started a project to build a modular Eurorack Synth last year :-)19:14
LeePenExcellent. How is teh theremin?19:14
amesserA bit dusty. Did not yet get into the mood to learn  to play it well. But maybe I can connect it with the synth :-)19:15
amesserHowever, a relative of me was for a visit here. It took him about an hour to play a song.19:16
LeePenamesser: there is no sign that there is an API change which might require a transition between fuse3 3.12 and 3.13: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fuse319:29
LeePenThat doesn't mean there isn't, just that nobody has noticed so far.19:30
LeePenI don't see libvirt-daemon depending on fuse at all. Is it just passing an error through?19:30
amesserits probably libvirt-daemon-driver-lxc19:31
amesserLet me forward the mail to you19:31
LeePenOr submit it to the BTS so we can track it properly?19:32
amesserok, thats probably sensible19:32
bgstack15Devuan meet tomorrow, Thursday, Jan 26, at 20:30 UTC. Pad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/Qo90Nxdiruh1VY4ZzA3R99LD/19:44
amesserLeePen: Besides this issue. There is something else: I just recovered that the war also an libvirt update for chimaera/bullseye. I have packaged it but I don't know how to trigger a build for it: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/libvirt/src/branch/suites/chimaera-proposed-updates19:46
bgstack15Xenguy: I've tried searching git.devuan.org for a repo that manages the website but I couldn't find any. Would it be possible to add me to the list of "Devuan developers past and present" on page https://www.devuan.org/os/team?19:48
LeePenamesser: I will do that now.19:51
amesserThanks!19:52
LeePenamesser: the fuse3 symbol thing looks odd.19:57
LeePenThere is an archlinux report from yesterday as well: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=208100019:57
amesserSaw that, but didn't look at the date.20:04
LeePenamesser: just noticed the version on the chimaera-pu build.20:10
amesserThanks!20:11
LeePenBecause it is still using the old +devuanN numbers, dpkg sorts +deb11u1devuan1 earlier than +devuan3.20:12
LeePenI think it will have to be +devuan4 to allow upgrades.20:12
LeePenA pain, I know.20:12
amesserI can push another version?20:17
amesserI found something in libfuse 3.13.0 changelog: "libfuse can now be build explicitly for C libraries without symbol versioning support."20:18
amesserMaybe different build settings are needed for libfuse now to have it backwards compatible? So this could be an issue with Debian as well.20:19
amesserlibfuse 3.13.0 is just about two weeks old.20:19
LeePenYes, me to. I have just followed up to #738.20:32
LeePenDo push another version for chimaera-pu and I will build again.20:32
bb|hcbamesser: objdump -T blabla.so will tell what is there... If the new one is now versioned, I see no proper way to manage without soname bump. It is possible, but is not worth the clutter. Maybe they tried to avoid the new queue? FWIW now is the season of transition freeze...20:33
bb|hcbJust checked libfuse3.so.3.10.3 is versioned...20:37
LeePen3.13 is due to migrate to testing in 2 days.20:38
LeePenThat should fix it.20:38
LeePenIf not, Debian will have to sort out another way.20:39
bb|hcb3.13.0(-1/-2) are also properly versioned with backward compatible symbols, most probably it is something minor20:48
amesserI think libfuse it self is broken. During compilation of the package itself, it sets "HAVE_LIBC_VERSIONED_SYMBOLS". This define however, is not set in any of its development headers.20:52
amesserThus apps using libfuse will not have the define set.20:52
amesserThis leads to apps expecting "fuse_new_31" symbol while libfuse3.13 only provides "fuse_new"20:53
amesserI believe the same linker error will occur with libfuse 3.1320:54
amesserSo its probably something to forward to ebian & upstream as well20:55
amesserHmm, seems they do really awkwards thing in this library21:03
amesser3.13 seems to have the symbol indeed.21:03
bb|hcbThat is a strange concept - normally fuse_new_xy should be hidden and only avail to binaries compiled against ver x.y, not redefined in headers...21:03
bb|hcbTime for me to call it a day21:04
amesserLeePen: I have just pushed libvirt 7.0.0-3+devuan4 for chimaera-po21:18
LeePenamesser: there were  libxlxml2domconfigtest failures on arm64 and armhf on the last one.21:29
amesserHmm. It built fine for me here. I can not test arm64 builds however :-)21:39
LeePenI just run it again.21:47
* amesser crosses fingers :-D21:52
amesserHave to go now, just to tired to stay up. Please drop me an e-mail if it still failes.21:52
LeePenOK. Check on #devuan-ci too.21:55
LeePenThanks.21:55
golinuxbgstack15: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/www.devuan.org22:04
Xenguybgstack15, I would think definitely, I had just assumed you were already listed23:32
bgstack15Ha, I'm sending up a merge request right now!23:32
bgstack15I'm working on my visibility for open source contributions.23:33
Xenguynp, I have not been active recently, so I'll try to de-rust the machinery23:34
bgstack15Hope that's the right branch: https://git.devuan.org/bgstack15/www.devuan.org/pulls/123:34
XenguyMe too, been awhile23:34
bgstack15Grr, it didn't keep "devuan:master" in there.23:34
golinuxShouldn't you be working on your own branch?23:35
bgstack15Yes, and I am trying to get a merge request created that wants to merge my branch into 'master' of the devuan/ repo.23:35
bgstack15Hm, maybe master isn't the right one... is "new-beta" the correct target branch? That's what it created: add bgstack15 to team list  <https://git.devuan.org/devuan/www.devuan.org/pulls/22>23:37
Xenguynew-beta is the usual target IIUC23:38

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