| golinux | Let me try something . . . probably won't work | 00:01 |
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| golinux | Didn't work | 00:06 |
| LeePen | nw | 00:09 |
| LeePen | o/ | 10:47 |
| LeePen | Does anybody have a laptop with beowulf xfce4 on? | 10:47 |
| LeePen | Trying to work out what is going on in https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=479 | 10:48 |
| rrq | LID0 ? I have LID | 11:13 |
| rrq | I have this other laptop I can play with ... | 11:57 |
| rrq | so it needs xfce4-power-manager ? | 11:58 |
| LeePen | Thanks. I don't have any laptop harware. | 11:58 |
| LeePen | Yes, does the lid switch work correctly with vanilla beowulf xfce4-power-manager? | 11:59 |
| rrq | anything else "special"? | 11:59 |
| LeePen | No that she has mentioned. elogind system, correct policykit-1 AFAICS. | 11:59 |
| fsmithred | O | 12:00 |
| fsmithred | I | 12:00 |
| fsmithred | 'fdsfuck | 12:00 |
| fsmithred | I'd like to know how she got it to work in ascii | 12:00 |
| LeePen | Morning! | 12:00 |
| LeePen | Feel free to ask her! | 12:00 |
| fsmithred | hi | 12:00 |
| rrq | ok. doesn't suspend | 12:01 |
| rrq | /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state = closed | 12:02 |
| LeePen | So does that mean the kernel end is working correctly, but xfce4-power-manager is not responding? | 12:10 |
| rrq | "xfce4-power-manager -q" renders a trap in syslog? | 12:10 |
| rrq | traps: xfce4-power-man[26936] trap int3 ip:7efe4379fc75 sp:7ffd39d06b40 error:0 in libglib-2.0.so.0.5800.3[7efe43767000+7e000] | 12:10 |
| rrq | hmm now it of course runs as an unprivileged user | 12:14 |
| rrq | running in foreground -- debug doesn't say anything when lid is closed/opened | 12:15 |
| rrq | the messages before doesn't mention lid | 12:16 |
| LeePen | Yes, that is what I saw in her debug trace too. | 12:19 |
| fsmithred | what's the deal with empty /etc/network/interfaces in chimaera? We don't need lo anymore? | 18:01 |
| LeePen | I have ceres up at the moment and it contains lo. | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | did a debootstrap of chimaera yesterday | 18:03 |
| LeePen | dpkg can't tell me which package it beongs to!!! | 18:03 |
| LeePen | ? | 18:03 |
| fsmithred | neither can apt-file | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | well... | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | it finds it in switchconf in the examples | 18:05 |
| LeePen | ifupdown.preinst | 18:08 |
| fsmithred | yeah, was just looking at ifupdown | 18:10 |
| fsmithred | it's installed | 18:11 |
| LeePen | But that just removes an old dummy version. | 18:11 |
| LeePen | I still can't find where one is created!!! | 18:11 |
| LeePen | It is ifupdown.postinst. | 18:12 |
| LeePen | There is a comment about it: | 18:12 |
| LeePen | # We don't need loopback interface definition anymore as | 18:12 |
| LeePen | # ifupdown handles loopback interface on its own from now | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | o k | 18:13 |
| LeePen | The same version if ifupdown is in beowulf, so I hope it is right! | 18:13 |
| fsmithred | well, the system works | 18:13 |
| LeePen | Great and to answer your original question, no apparently we don't need lo there anymore! | 18:14 |
| fsmithred | lol | 18:14 |
| fsmithred | I need a line for eth0 or something else | 18:14 |
| fsmithred | guess I should try some gui network manager | 18:15 |
| LeePen | Get typing ;) | 18:15 |
| LeePen | See https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=424#18. | 18:15 |
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| golinux_ | Article needs update? | 18:16 |
| golinux_ | You are here: Home / News / Devuan Beowulf 3.0 is the Latest Stable Release Based on Debian 10.4 Buster (and Free From systemd) | 18:16 |
| golinux_ | Devuan Beowulf 3.0 is the Latest Stable Release Based on Debian 10.4 Buster (and Free From systemd) | 18:16 |
| golinux_ | Oop s. . . funky c/p | 18:16 |
| golinux_ | Are we really based on 10.4? | 18:16 |
| fsmithred | yeah, that's what is current | 18:16 |
| LeePen | I think so. | 18:16 |
| LeePen | That is current buster | 18:17 |
| golinux_ | Poor Donnager gonna be frustrated | 18:17 |
| LeePen | Who? Why? | 18:17 |
| fsmithred | and all the isos were built in the last few days, so they are current | 18:17 |
| golinux_ | OK. Ithought we had an older version that would be upgraed in the point release | 18:18 |
| LeePen | No we kept up. | 18:18 |
| golinux_ | LeePen: donnager is trying to quiet me for posting those lines accidentally | 18:18 |
| LeePen | It means that debian had a chance to fix some of their bugs for us before we released ;) | 18:18 |
| golinux_ | I missed that memo. | 18:19 |
| golinux_ | Just didn't want info out there that wasn't correct. | 18:19 |
| LeePen | No its right, that is why I had to update the mini.isos last week, because the kernel ABI was bumped. | 18:20 |
| golinux_ | Anyway https://itsfoss.com/devuan-3-release/ | 18:20 |
| fsmithred | wicd won't install in chimaera | 18:28 |
| fsmithred | no more python-gtk2 | 18:29 |
| bgstack15 | the time has come... | 18:29 |
| bgstack15 | oh boy. I love wicd. | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | I've been happy with it | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | and I have an ancient hate for network-manager, but I'm willing to let that go. It was 12 years ago. | 18:30 |
| adam_free2air | fsmithred: i see your hate and raise you another experience about 4 years ago with nm and d-bus | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | lol | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | connman will install, but it seems very small. | 18:31 |
| adam_free2air | nm, d-bus on arm minibian http://www.pocket-fm.com/ | 18:32 |
| LeePen | There is a python3 version of wicd in debian experimental. | 18:39 |
| LeePen | But never made it further than that. | 18:39 |
| fsmithred | I'm trying n-m | 18:39 |
| LeePen | I should remove it from chimaera, I suppose. | 18:39 |
| LeePen | Brave! | 18:40 |
| LeePen | We will need an alternative. | 18:40 |
| fsmithred | well, I'm motivated by wanting to start using a vpn | 18:40 |
| LeePen | Removed wicd from chimaera. | 18:44 |
| LeePen | Let's take a moment. | 18:44 |
| golinux_ | Noooooo !!!!! | 18:45 |
| fsmithred | it was broken beyond repair | 18:46 |
| LeePen | connman seems to do vpn too. | 18:49 |
| bgstack15 | I've been meaning to try out connman but I haven't had any mobile Devuan boxes that I consider "throwaway" enough to gamble on it. | 19:42 |
| fsmithred | bgstack15, I just made a live-iso that has connman. I'll upload it somewhere. | 22:06 |
| bgstack15 | sweet, i'll try it. | 22:11 |
| bgstack15 | just for my information, is this beowulf, or ceres? | 22:11 |
| fsmithred | I'm gonna make a new one. Neither. | 22:11 |
| fsmithred | chimaera | 22:11 |
| fsmithred | I just added some logout commands and something else that I already forgot. | 22:12 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah | 22:12 |
| fsmithred | it'll say Devuan in the boot menu | 22:12 |
| fsmithred | bgstack15, link is in pad, upload will be finished in a few minutes | 22:32 |
| fsmithred | was gonna say 15 but it just changed to 3 | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | 5 | 22:33 |
| LeePen | Can anybody connect to jitsi? | 22:33 |
| golinux | Anybody coming | 22:34 |
| golinux | We're there | 22:34 |
| LeePen | Can't connect | 22:34 |
| rrq | yes can | 22:37 |
| golinux | LeePen: reboot and try | 22:50 |
| LeePen | Tried. | 23:08 |
| LeePen | Still trying. | 23:09 |
| LeePen | Nope, can't connect to vdc.dyne.org. | 23:22 |
| LeePen | Sorry to miss you all. | 23:22 |
| adam_free2air | weird | 23:22 |
| * golinux sheds a tear | 23:27 | |
| fsmithred | simple-netaid is the name I couldn't remember | 23:41 |
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