| fsmithred | mini.iso is dead | 13:01 |
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| KatolaZ | fsmithred: ? | 13:02 |
| KatolaZ | ok, 4.19.0-2 migrated to buster | 13:04 |
| KatolaZ | we can rebuild the installer :) | 13:04 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: give me 30 minutes, and it will be back | 13:04 |
| fsmithred | cool! I didn't expect it so fast. | 13:09 |
| KatolaZ | it's building already :P | 13:10 |
| fsmithred | is there a way to include the modules on the media so this doesn't keep happening? | 13:10 |
| KatolaZ | I was just waiting for the new abi to migrate to buster | 13:10 |
| KatolaZ | what do you mean? | 13:10 |
| fsmithred | kernel/module mis-match happens a lot | 13:10 |
| KatolaZ | no way with mini.iso | 13:11 |
| KatolaZ | that's why it's mini.iso :) | 13:11 |
| KatolaZ | modules are available in netinst | 13:11 |
| fsmithred | doesn't this same problem happen with netinst isos? | 13:11 |
| fsmithred | I can't remember for sure | 13:12 |
| KatolaZ | nope, it shouldn't IIRC | 13:12 |
| KatolaZ | positive, modules are in the install media in netinst | 13:13 |
| fsmithred | I might be remembering attempts with d-i on live isos | 13:14 |
| KatolaZ | they are in pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux | 13:14 |
| fsmithred | if that path is added to the mini.iso, will the installer find it? | 13:15 |
| KatolaZ | same in jessie, BTW | 13:16 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: why? | 13:16 |
| fsmithred | more to the point, can I add the modules to the mini.iso on the usb image I made? | 13:16 |
| KatolaZ | fiddling with the debian-installer package is a total mess | 13:16 |
| fsmithred | the image has the contents of the mini.isos, not the iso files themselves | 13:17 |
| KatolaZ | I don't think it is possible to add modules afterwards | 13:17 |
| KatolaZ | you need to re-create the repo | 13:17 |
| KatolaZ | and re-sign the corresponding Release files | 13:17 |
| fsmithred | I'd like to try it, but I guess I won't know if it works until next kernel change. | 13:19 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: actually, the Release files are unsigned in netinst | 13:19 |
| KatolaZ | well, you can easily see if it works | 13:20 |
| KatolaZ | just disable the networks | 13:20 |
| KatolaZ | s/networks/network | 13:20 |
| fsmithred | oh, ok | 13:20 |
| KatolaZ | but anyway, you need to create the Packages files | 13:20 |
| KatolaZ | and amend the repo accordingly | 13:20 |
| KatolaZ | it's not enough to add stuff under pool/ | 13:20 |
| fsmithred | those are things on the netinstall that aren't on the mini? | 13:21 |
| KatolaZ | yes | 13:24 |
| KatolaZ | the mini has no repo on board | 13:24 |
| KatolaZ | the netinst has a repo for base-system | 13:24 |
| KatolaZ | the 200 packages in the minimal debian system | 13:25 |
| KatolaZ | plus kernel modules | 13:25 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: you can get the latest mini.iso now | 14:00 |
| KatolaZ | oops | 14:01 |
| KatolaZ | does not look like that though... | 14:01 |
| KatolaZ | mmmhhh | 14:01 |
| KatolaZ | hold on | 14:01 |
| KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-ppc64el/current/ | 14:06 |
| KatolaZ | ppc64el installer | 14:06 |
| KatolaZ | please have a go at it | 14:06 |
| KatolaZ | ;) | 14:06 |
| KatolaZ | (I knot it's night down there though) | 14:07 |
| fsmithred | so are i386 and amd64 ok? | 14:12 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: rebuulding | 14:13 |
| KatolaZ | rebuilding | 14:13 |
| KatolaZ | will be ready in 10 minutes | 14:13 |
| KatolaZ | just have a look on #devuan-ci | 14:13 |
| KatolaZ | bbl | 14:14 |
| KatolaZ | o/ | 14:14 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: mini.iso updated | 14:57 |
| KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/current/ | 14:57 |
| KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386/current/ | 14:57 |
| KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-ppc64el/current/ | 14:57 |
| KatolaZ | bbl | 14:57 |
| KatolaZ | o/ | 14:57 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I got it already, thanks! | 14:59 |
| fsmithred | not sure if it's me or the installer - I'm having trouble setting up encrypted lvm | 16:45 |
| fsmithred | select partition to be used as encrypted volume | 16:45 |
| fsmithred | try to continue (finish) and it complains that no mountpoint for root | 16:45 |
| fsmithred | I can configure lvm, but then it's not encrypted. | 16:46 |
| fsmithred | can't seem to get to the place where it asks me for the passphrase. Going to try again. | 16:46 |
| KatolaZ | dunno | 16:50 |
| fsmithred | ok, it works if I delete the partition and re-create it first. | 17:23 |
| fsmithred | not sure if that's new behavior or not | 17:24 |
| fsmithred | tried to delete a logical volume right after making it (to make it a different size) and get error: Volume group inVGvol0 not found. The actual name of the volume group is vol0. | 17:28 |
| fsmithred | left it at the original size and continued. Seems to be working. | 17:36 |
| LeePen | Hi. | 18:10 |
| LeePen | I am just writing an email to the dev list about our slim packages. | 18:10 |
| LeePen | Who is our consolekit guru? | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | probably Dan | 18:33 |
| fsmithred | there's a consolekit 1.2.1-4 in ceres and experimental. It's not in sid. It does not have "devuan" in the version, and I can't find consolekit at git.devuan.org. What's up with that? | 18:41 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: Yes. I wonder how much we need it now as Debian have dropped consolekit. There are very few dependencies and most are elogind|consolekit. | 18:47 |
| fsmithred | I wouldn't mind if we dropped slim, too. | 18:49 |
| fsmithred | I have to go. bbl. | 18:49 |
| golinux | LeePen: Don't we have consolekit2? | 18:52 |
| LeePen | golinux: Hi. Ah I see that now. Thanks. | 18:55 |
| LeePen | That explains why there is no +devuan in the versions. | 18:56 |
| golinux | FWIW, I really like slim and it's working in beowulf | 18:57 |
| golinux | with Xfce. | 18:57 |
| LeePen | Yes, but that is the point of my email: those are the Debian pacakges. | 18:57 |
| KatolaZ | consolekit in ceres is from devuan | 18:59 |
| KatolaZ | the source package is called consolekit2 | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | but the binary is consolekit | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | so it is indeed consolekit2 | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | we decided to leave the binary name as "consolekit" a few months ago, when Centurion_Dan started working on it | 19:00 |
| golinux | I am still pretty confused about the policykit/consolekit stuff. My take away is that different WM require different backends and they are mutually exclusive. | 19:01 |
| KatolaZ | LeePen: there is no slim in beowulf | 19:01 |
| KatolaZ | but there are devuan versions for ascii, jessie, and unstable | 19:01 |
| LeePen | KatolaZ: well only the merged Debian one | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | the version number in ascii is not a major problem | 19:02 |
| LeePen | I agree, I just noticed it in passing | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | since we can bump the one in unstable if and when we like | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | 19:03 < LeePen> KatolaZ: well only the merged Debian one | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | ^^^ what do you mean? | 19:02 |
| golinux | I have it working on a VB mini.iso | 19:03 |
| LeePen | [beowulf] slim-1.3.6-5.1 | 19:03 |
| KatolaZ | is that the debian version? | 19:03 |
| LeePen | Yes | 19:03 |
| KatolaZ | (i.e., the version coming from debian?) | 19:04 |
| LeePen | Yes | 19:04 |
| KatolaZ | and I guess it is working with elogind, because the debian one works with systemd | 19:04 |
| KatolaZ | (logind) | 19:04 |
| KatolaZ | right? | 19:04 |
| LeePen | Yes | 19:04 |
| KatolaZ | ok, the whole story about consolekit is to allow a choice | 19:04 |
| KatolaZ | before elogind (i.e., before ascii) we didn't have any | 19:04 |
| KatolaZ | and consolekit was the only way | 19:04 |
| LeePen | I like choice | 19:04 |
| golinux | slim 1.3.6-5.1 | 19:05 |
| KatolaZ | in ascii we allowed a choice between elogind and consolekit | 19:05 |
| KatolaZ | now to continue that, we need consolekit2 in unstable | 19:05 |
| LeePen | I think slim/ascii is consolekit only | 19:05 |
| KatolaZ | yes | 19:05 |
| KatolaZ | and also something else is consolekit only | 19:05 |
| LeePen | Do we need 2 slim packages against consolekit and elogind? | 19:06 |
| golinux | lightdm, I think | 19:06 |
| KatolaZ | I guess it would make sense to keep consolekit 2 if we can | 19:06 |
| KatolaZ | LeePen: I guess that would be nice | 19:06 |
| KatolaZ | maybe we can leave the current package as it is | 19:06 |
| KatolaZ | (as it works with elogind) | 19:06 |
| KatolaZ | and have a slim-consolekit one? | 19:06 |
| KatolaZ | but it's probably better to discuss this on the ML | 19:07 |
| LeePen | Yes, I wondered about that. | 19:07 |
| KatolaZ | as I am not the maintainer of consolekit or slim | 19:07 |
| KatolaZ | so mine is just a somehow external take on the whole story | 19:07 |
| golinux | hellekin was the slim maintainer | 19:07 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: it was adopted by Centurion_Dan for ascii | 19:07 |
| KatolaZ | IIRC | 19:07 |
| golinux | OK | 19:08 |
| LeePen | I haven't come across him/her | 19:08 |
| KatolaZ | hellekin left some three years ago | 19:08 |
| golinux | LeePen: Long story | 19:08 |
| LeePen | Once upon a time.... ;) | 19:08 |
| golinux | More like 2 | 19:08 |
| KatolaZ | whetever | 19:09 |
| KatolaZ | it was before we released jessie | 19:09 |
| golinux | It seems like 3. ;) | 19:09 |
| KatolaZ | slim was re-built for jessie by dan, if I am not wrong | 19:09 |
| KatolaZ | and then updated for ascii | 19:09 |
| KatolaZ | but anyway | 19:09 |
| KatolaZ | this is of little interest for the current discussion | 19:09 |
| KatolaZ | my point is, it would be good to have support for consolekit2 while it is around | 19:10 |
| golinux | Very true. Sorry for the noise. I'm a bit nored atm. LOL! | 19:10 |
| golinux | bored actually | 19:10 |
| LeePen | KatolaZ: Sounds good to support both somehow. | 19:11 |
| LeePen | Thanks | 19:11 |
| KatolaZ | np | 19:12 |
| KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan: you here by any chance? | 19:15 |
| Centurion_Dan | yup | 19:52 |
| Centurion_Dan | KatolaZ | 19:52 |
| Centurion_Dan | ? | 19:53 |
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