| Vall | c0rnelius: agreed you and I can't change it. But we can try and (at least help) change future events | 00:03 |
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| Vall | Oh man | 00:03 |
| Vall | Your family was a victim of the Holocaust? I'm very sorry to hear that :-( | 00:04 |
| Vall | Re: the world not caring, you are completely right. The same re: Israel, if the jews haven't fought for the land, there would be no Israel today. | 00:07 |
| Vall | (not saying this should allow the Israel military to continue to kill over 20 palestinians -- most of them civilians -- for each Israeli killed by Hamas and other terrorists) | 00:10 |
| gnarface | guys there's a #devuan-offtopic | 00:11 |
| gnarface | just fyi | 00:11 |
| Vall | gnarface: perhaps we should create a #devuan-arm-offtopic ;-) | 00:11 |
| Vall | gnarface: but of course you are right, I apologize. | 00:11 |
| gnarface | maybe not a bad idea actually | 00:12 |
| Vall | c0rnelius: let's continue in #devuan-offtopic ? | 00:12 |
| gnarface | i'm no figure of authority here, it's just that i keep seeing the channel light up with what i expect to be new news about arm builds and i flip over and see you guys bitching about politics, that's all | 00:12 |
| Vall | gnarface: heh ;-) not being a figure of authority doesn't change the fact that you are right ;-) | 00:13 |
| Vall | Folks, gotta go. Talk to y'all later (prolly tomorrow). Have a great one! | 00:22 |
| c0rnelius | Not a lot of people speak here, but I get the drift. | 00:35 |
| c0rnelius | As a matter of fact... No one says anything here :) its like me and two other peps. | 00:38 |
| c0rnelius | Fair enough sir | 00:39 |
| c0rnelius | there is -> #arm-img-builder | 00:40 |
| c0rnelius | We just speak there. No reservations. | 00:40 |
| hyrcanus | i use only devuan-arm, with the exception of a couple toy android installs, and two sailfish OS devices | 02:03 |
| hyrcanus | also if web.archive.org has saved your ass before, please donate to them | 06:10 |
| hyrcanus | it's useful to have an older linux around | 08:25 |
| hyrcanus | for those things that are all munged by too much newness | 08:25 |
| adam_free2air | currently testing new devuan chimaera rpi0-4 images starting with rpi4 ... | 17:43 |
| hyrcanus | good someone should test them | 17:55 |
| adam_free2air | ok. rpi4 boots at console, now installing xfce to check desktop | 19:04 |
| hyrcanus | xfce might still be a garbage fire, idk | 19:13 |
| hyrcanus | not curious enough | 19:13 |
| adam_free2air | hyrcanus: yup. but working. | 21:11 |
| adam_free2air | trying mate now briefly, then on to rpi3 ... | 21:11 |
| hyrcanus | k | 21:11 |
| hyrcanus | if you want guaranteed to not fuck-up your xorg performance i like openbox | 21:12 |
| adam_free2air | tempted to try kde, cause i like the pain ... ;) | 21:12 |
| adam_free2air | but yeah, openbox is pretty good. was into i3 for a while, smooth, but it did things to my head. | 21:14 |
| hyrcanus | if i could completely disable browser dragging anything that'd be great | 21:15 |
| hyrcanus | often when i want to hilight text, i get a 'drag' action | 21:15 |
| hyrcanus | and cannot hilight the text | 21:15 |
| hyrcanus | i never want anything to drag to anywhere | 21:16 |
| adam_free2air | vortex | 21:23 |
| adam_free2air | oops. not here. wrong kboard. :/ | 21:23 |
| hyrcanus | hehe | 21:25 |
| adam_free2air | reboot | 21:33 |
| * adam_free2air my brain ... | 21:33 | |
| adam_free2air | btw openbox worked fine too. | 21:34 |
| hyrcanus | +1 | 21:46 |
| hyrcanus | pi4 is nice and all but idk | 21:46 |
| hyrcanus | pi3 was unstable with opengl enabled so | 21:46 |
| hyrcanus | i have post-traumatic hatred for broadcom | 21:46 |
| hyrcanus | for a bit more money i can get SBC with untainted horror memory | 21:47 |
| Tenkawa | hyrcanus: what sbc? | 21:49 |
| hyrcanus | odroid, khadas | 21:49 |
| hyrcanus | or something rockchip based | 21:50 |
| hyrcanus | but for lots of people they'll be happiest with the larger community around the pi4 | 21:50 |
| Tenkawa | odroid/amlogic I can agree with however take it from someone who has had to debug rockchip units... they are no picnic either | 21:50 |
| hyrcanus | ty for info | 21:51 |
| hyrcanus | if i had the money to blow i'd get a xavier nx, cause they're neat-o | 21:51 |
| hyrcanus | with nice gpus | 21:51 |
| Tenkawa | amlogic are my preferred however they are pricy and availability is lacking right now | 21:52 |
| Tenkawa | I have a N2 and N2+ personally | 21:52 |
| hyrcanus | sadly the mali g52 mp4 isn't comparable to jetson nano's gpu | 21:52 |
| hyrcanus | but you do get open-source drivers | 21:53 |
| Tenkawa | yes but the Jetson's cpu is nominal at best | 21:53 |
| hyrcanus | why no cortex a78 with decent gpu :( | 21:53 |
| hyrcanus | we waiting so long | 21:53 |
| hyrcanus | yeah a browser on a jetson is painful | 21:53 |
| Tenkawa | indeed. | 21:53 |
| Tenkawa | afk.. need to switch over laundry | 21:54 |
| hyrcanus | k | 21:54 |
| adam_free2air | hyrcanus: understand your broadcom trauma. rpi's are not my arm platform of choice, but devuan is the os i want to offer to those that do ;) | 21:59 |
| hyrcanus | mhm also you can get pi4s with 8GB which is nice for that headroom a browser wants | 22:00 |
| hyrcanus | but i seem to be doing ok with zram now on 4GB | 22:00 |
| hyrcanus | still dont' know what % of memory to set the zram to | 22:00 |
| hyrcanus | got rid of that stupid tmpfs for /tmp | 22:01 |
| hyrcanus | and disabled memory overcommit | 22:01 |
| hyrcanus | "with blackouts looming, german government promotes 'cooking without electricty'" | 22:13 |
| Tenkawa | hyrcanus: have you actually read the entire larger story it goes with? | 22:20 |
| Tenkawa | it makes a lot of sense in context with whats going on | 22:20 |
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