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T 1261325980 29*	29Topic for #maemo 29set by VDVsx 29at Tue Dec  8 17:17:11 2009
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T 1261325988 31<RST38bis>30	ehlo all
T 1261326066 18<matan>	250-PIPELINING
T 1261326104 31<RST38bis>30	As they only say that 'the bulk' is running PHP, let's assume this to be 25,000 of the 30,000. If C++ would have been used instead of PHP, then 22,500 servers could be powered down (assuming a conservative ratio of 10 for the efficiency of C++ versus PHP code), or a reduction of 49,000 tons of CO2 per year. 
T 1261326122 31<RST38bis>30	heh, poor php, cant get a break...
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T 1261326428 18<manuelse>	Hello is gpodder author in chat
T 1261326460 18<manuelse>	Somewhere i want to play the new podcasts
T 1261326477 18<weatherhead>	hi, does anyone know anything about facebook chat support it pidgin
T 1261326480 18<manuelse>	but they are all in their categories and i must play each one
T 1261326502 18<manuelse>	is facebook irc?
T 1261326515 19*	19mgedmin (n=mg@Maemo/community/contributor/mgedmin) has joined #maemo
T 1261326555 18<stevenhong>	how to see the swap in n810
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T 1261326580 18<manuelse>	top, free
T 1261326584 18<manuelse>	mount
T 1261326675 18<stevenhong>	use top command I just see the ram
T 1261326700 18<manuelse>	ok, sorry
T 1261326715 18<SpeedEvil>	Hmm. video with flashlight is a bit iffy.
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T 1261326719 18<SpeedEvil>	As expected really
T 1261326720 18<manuelse>	on pc top show Swap:
T 1261326731 18<SpeedEvil>	http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/4200558860/
T 1261326731 18<ShadowJK>	maemo has busybox top
T 1261326754 18<ShadowJK>	if nothing else, grep Swap /proc/meminfo
T 1261326757 18<stevenhong>	have you succeed in boot the system in the mmc
T 1261326770 18<Lantizia>	Could anyone else make a dir, put some music files in it, and a cover.jpg picture, and see if Media Player (on N900) actually uses it as Album Art?
T 1261326779 18<Lantizia>	it's meant to according to the bug tracker, but doesn't for mne
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T 1261829590 29*	29Topic for #maemo 29set by crashanddie 29at Thu Dec 24 18:43:13 2009
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T 1261829658 31<RST38bis>30	konttori: btw are you aware of performance degradation once the device stays up for 4+ days?
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T 1261829788 18<red>	u should add a java compiler to PATH
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T 1261829844 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	there is a command to uninstall debian packages in the n900?
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T 1261829864 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	i mean i installed the packet viewer and i noticed something i want uninstall
T 1261829877 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	there is a way to do so from xterminal?
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T 1261829989 18<LuciusMare>	Vengeful[zZzZz]: apt-get
T 1261829991 18<frals>	apt-get remove packagename
T 1261830002 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	hmmm
T 1261830016 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	let's try with marbles XD
T 1261830046 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	isn't working anymore
T 1261830055 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	and i hate that icon still being there
T 1261830127 19*	19Acedip (n=ani@fedora/Acedip) has joined #maemo
T 1261830192 18<LuciusMare>	...
T 1261830200 18<LuciusMare>	anybody got irreco to work?
T 1261830217 18<LuciusMare>	for me,it doesnt work
T 1261830263 19*	19avs (n=avs@213.221.117.228) has joined #maemo
T 1261830274 21<konttori>21	RST38bis: perf deg on 42 or 51?
T 1261830317 18<konttori>	wazd: the bat sets up java vm size to big enough.
T 1261830330 18<villager>	Vengeful[zZzZz]: apt-get remove osso-lmarbles
T 1261830334 18<konttori>	you need it to be able to build  theme
T 1261830383 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	yeah thanks
T 1261830396 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	this way i can really manage what's in and what's out the device
T 1261830398 18<Vengeful[zZzZz]>	thanks
T 1261830486 31<RST38bis>30	konttori: 42
T 1261830559 31<RST38bis>30	hmmm... irssi package is broken, misses -e in .desktop
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T 1261830712 19*	19angasule (n=angasule@190.176.216.120) has joined #maemo
T 1261830715 18<angasule>	morning :D
T 1261830736 18<Tanuva>	Can I somehow delete/regenerate the maemo5 media player's music database? There are several songs doubled and many missing...
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T 1262039071 29*	29Topic for #maemo 29set by crashanddie 29at Thu Dec 24 18:43:13 2009
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T 1262039075 18<29javispedro>	(without my keyb layout, of course)
T 1262039083 21<javispedro>21	hi and welcome, RST38bis
T 1262039089 18<27ebtschi_work>	luke-jr, the EFIKA thingie is too large, unfortunately :(
T 1262039089 31<RST38bis>30	gooood
T 1262039130 18<27pupnik>	right without keyb layout (which doesn't work here) :P
T 1262039130 18<27ebtschi_work>	thanks for the ideas anyway :-)
T 1262039130 18<29javispedro>	pupnik: it assumes the fn -> backtick mapping
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T 1262040164 29*	29Topic for #maemo 29set by crashanddie 29at Thu Dec 24 18:43:13 2009
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T 1262040176 18<22tabMonkey>	anyone know if there's a good way of restarted mce on the n900 without causing a reboot?
T 1262040188 18<22tabMonkey>	s/restarted/restarting/
T 1262040188 18<27infobot>	tabMonkey meant: anyone know if there's a good way of restarting mce on the n900 without causing a reboot?
T 1262040280 22*	tabMonkey is now known as tabMonkey_n900
T 1262040281 18*	29javispedro envisions tmoers installing debian packages "in a crowded bus with no seats, while having nothing to hold on to".
T 1262040296 31<RST38bis>30	scary
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T 1262040316 29*	29Topic for #maemo 29set by crashanddie 29at Thu Dec 24 18:43:13 2009
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T 1262040336 18<27ebtschi_work>	javispedro, on a bus with no roof, while it's raining
T 1262040355 18<25Stskeeps>	javispedro: app manager should work in portrait, obviously
T 1262040393 31<RST38bis>30	ok the only remaining problem is the input
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T 1262040420 18<29javispedro>	something is wrong in a discussion when I couldn't do anything but laugh at someone's completely serious argument.
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T 1262040440 18<26luke-jr>	ebtschi_work: my big project right now is writing a VoiceXML interpreter
T 1262040446 18<26luke-jr>	ebtschi_work: most VoiceXML applications are VUIs
T 1262040448 18*	RST38bis laughes satanically
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T 1262040553 18<27ebtschi_work>	luke-jr, why don't people use just screenreaders?
T 1262040571 18<26luke-jr>	ebtschi_work: because that would be a complete pain to use?
T 1262040589 18<26luke-jr>	especially for someone who's never had a concept of a 2D display
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T 1262040604 18<26luke-jr>	(other than what can be explained verbally)
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T 1262073890 31<RST38bis>30 EHLO ALL
T 1262073899 18<27thresh> OHAI
T 1262073902 18* 22Arkenoi btw tried pitek's belt-mounted model that fits good and seen the infamous magnet bug with my own eyes ;-)
T 1262073981 31<RST38bis>30 what is pitek and the magnet bug?
T 1262073996 31<RST38bis>30 btw, I have got xchat to usable state
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T 1262074036 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: hey
T 1262074051 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: Roman is not responding again :(
T 1262074063 31<RST38bis>30 heya wazd, how are things? is s60 treating you fairly?;)
T 1262074075 31<RST38bis>30 wazd: ny
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T 1262074163 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: got personal sertificate ;)
T 1262074177 31<RST38bis>30 ahh... full certificate?
T 1262074372 31<RST38bis>30 anyone knows if I can expect mheigb font on every tablet?
T 1262074451 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: yep
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T 1262074453 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: screen is lowres, system is damn fast overall :)
T 1262074453 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: Picodrive is awesome)
T 1262074453 21<Arkenoi>21 RST38bis, ah, they are petek actually
T 1262074453 18<22Arkenoi> http://www.petek-shop.ru/
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T 1262074453 18<22Arkenoi> the magnet bug: put a small magnet close to the center of the screen and n900 will wake up and never go asleep until you remove the magnet
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T 1262074514 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: ah I know why it happens
T 1262074525 31<RST38bis>30 has nothing to do with screens
T 1262074555 31<RST38bis>30 wazd: install more apps and it will slow down thoug
T 1262074803 31<RST38bis>30 arkenoi: and yes, wearing stuff on your belt in moscow is like wearing a sign "please, rob me"
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T 1262074813 21<Arkenoi>21 RST38bis, btw what did you do with your old e70?
T 1262074813 18<25Anidel> morning guys... if you lock the screen of the N900, then press the power button to bring up the locked screen (where you have got to slide to unlock it), then keep your finger pressed on it.. it will never turn off the screen until you remove  your finger
T 1262074813 18<25Anidel> I will file a bug on this.. as it can discharge the phone when locked in your pocket and for some Murphy law, it will happen
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T 1262074813 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: well, I don't need much
T 1262074813 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: Jabber, IRC< CorePlayer, that's kinda all :)
T 1262074813 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: and it has 128 RAM btw :)
T 1262074835 21<PaulFertser>21 RST38bis: are you sure that's up-to-date info?
T 1262074841 31<RST38bis>30 arkenoi: nothing, it has been retired to the desk drawer for now
T 1262074872 31<RST38bis>30 Paul: what info?
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T 1262074934 21<Arkenoi>21 RST38bis, hmm, maybe you are walking wrong parts of Moscow, as i never had problems like that ;-)
T 1262074935 21<Anidel>21 Hello RST38bis, pleased to meet you
T 1262074953 21<PaulFertser>21 RST38bis: robbery in moscow
T 1262074957 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: only if subway is the wrong part...
T 1262074982 31<RST38bis>30 Paul: pretty fresh, 3 days old I would say :)
T 1262074995 31<RST38bis>30 Anidel: mooo!
T 1262075000 21<Arkenoi>21 RST38bis, what happened?
T 1262075038 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: an acquaintance lost her keyring on the subway, pickpocketed during rush hour
T 1262075078 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: No real value lost but replacing 10+ keys will be trouble
T 1262075099 21<Anidel>21 rst38bis was just dutifully replying to your EHLO, I am kinda slow :p packing and leaving for a quite long train trip this morning
T 1262075101 18<29PaulFertser> Not exactly robbery i'd say
T 1262075122 18<22Arkenoi> who the hell needs someone else's keyring without any knowledge what those keys are for?
T 1262075137 18<22Arkenoi> poul: yep
T 1262075138 18<29PaulFertser> Probably she lost it herself
T 1262075146 31<RST38bis>30 Anidel: do you by any chance know if mhegb font is guaranteed to be on the device?
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T 1262075184 31<RST38bis>30 Paul: when you lose you gadget this way and come here to complain, I will respond the same
T 1262075195 21<Anidel>21 RST38bis: nope, no idea about that. I can check on 51-1 if you tell me the font name, are them in /usr/X11/fonts or similar?
T 1262075199 31<RST38bis>30 probably lost it yourself :)
T 1262075246 18<25Anidel> maybe it lost it itself
T 1262075250 31<RST38bis>30 Anidel: will be in xterm settings but never mind, I will catch and torture konttori :)
T 1262075263 18<25Anidel> that's more fun :)
T 1262075269 18* 22Arkenoi heared much about pickpocketing in public transport but was a "victim" just once when very drunk (and reasonably well-dressed, not looking like an alcoholic and homeless) woman tried to find something in my pocket where was nothing anyways ;-) She tried to use a small bag to hide her actions ;-))
T 1262075290 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: well, it is not widespread
T 1262075294 18<25Anidel> Arkenoi, she was looking for your phone number
T 1262075315 18<22Arkenoi> she wasn't my type at all ;-)
T 1262075318 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: but there is absolutely no need to invite it to happen
T 1262075320 18<27wazd> Pickpocketing was my ticket into maemo :D
T 1262075327 18<22Arkenoi> but that was funny
T 1262075330 18<25Anidel> eheh
T 1262075345 31<RST38bis>30 wazd: your pocketpc was stolen? :)
T 1262075346 18<27wazd> cause my Loox 720 was stolen that way :)
T 1262075351 31<RST38bis>30 ahhahaha
T 1262075377 18<25Anidel> I am not sure Naples would be any safer than Moscow in this pickpocketing battle
T 1262075425 18<22Arkenoi> well, actually belt mounted case is not easy prey as you are likely to notice if there is something suspicious going on
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T 1262075429 18<27wazd> russian pickpocketers are so tough that they can pick things from your underwear :D
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T 1262075484 18<20wazd_e63> Yeah, I agree
T 1262075487 18<25Anidel> they say that if you drive with your arm (and wistwatch) outside the car window (as it'd be very warm during the summer) then the Neapolitans would be able to pickpocket it the same
T 1262075495 21<PaulFertser>21 RST38bis: (respond the same way) sorry. It's just a bit too weird to hear about pick-pocketers taking useless keys.
T 1262075496 31<RST38bis>30 wazd: which makes them on par with TSA
T 1262075528 31<RST38bis>30 Paul: well they took what they found
T 1262075553 22* fcrozat|gone is now known as fcrozat
T 1262075575 31<RST38bis>30 Anidel: it is actually not that bad here but there are too many people, too tightlu packed, so statistics go into play
T 1262075590 18<29PaulFertser> (TSA) lol. I've heard that the USA hackers can no longer use laptop during the flights :D
T 1262075643 18<22Arkenoi> thieves rarely steal from pockets and belt bags, they prefer stealing stuff from women bags, wallets and mobile phones are likely to be there and it is much harder to pay attention to.
T 1262075652 21<Anidel>21 rst38bis: indeed.. same in every big ciry I'd suspect
T 1262075656 18<25Anidel> s/ciry/city
T 1262075674 31<RST38bis>30 yea, pockets are actually difficult
T 1262075676 18<25Anidel> breakfast, brb
T 1262075690 31<RST38bis>30 but belt bag sounds mighty easy to steal from
T 1262075743 21<Arkenoi>21 RST38bis, it is on your front and in direct sight
T 1262075783 18* 25ifreq puts tinfoil hat on so no one can hear me scream inside of my mind :-P
T 1262075807 31<RST38bis>30 Arkenoi: not on the subway, in the crowd
T 1262075852 31<RST38bis>30 quick question: xchat channel chooser, top or the bottom of the screen??
T 1262075864 31<RST38bis>30 (votes accepted)
T 1262075922 21<Arkenoi>21 RST38bis, i used belt mounted case in the summer, no problems so far. It is safer that outer pockets at least
T 1262075922 18<27wazd> left :)
T 1262075940 18<27wazd> or top as tabs
T 1262075945 31<RST38bis>30 left is out of the question on n900
T 1262075964 21<fnordianslip>21 RST38bis:  I vote for the tabs on the bottom
T 1262075980 31<RST38bis>30 ok, 1 top, 1 bottom
T 1262075992 31<RST38bis>30 more votes?
T 1262076007 18<22Arkenoi> bottom
T 1262076015 31<RST38bis>30 1:2
T 1262076026 18<27wazd> bootom should be toolbar
T 1262076036 18<27wazd> that's the law
T 1262076042 18<27wazd> 2:2 :)
T 1262076055 31<RST38bis>30 no toolbar in xchat, bt there is input line on the bottom
T 1262076063 18<22fnordianslip> wazd: laws have flaws, and rules are for fools :)
T 1262076065 21<wazd>21 RST38bis: input then
T 1262076094 18* RST38bis also thinks about the top
T 1262076124 31<RST38bis>30 so that these tabs do not interfere with input
T 1262076136 18<22Arkenoi> well, actually i said "bottom" as it is there in my desktop setup
T 1262076145 31<RST38bis>30 yea
T 1262076150 18<24lucent> xchat? srsly?
T 1262076151 18<22Arkenoi> maybe top is actually better for finger tapping
T 1262076172 31<RST38bis>30 they are more for nail tapping though :)
T 1262076237 18<24lucent> xchat was my introduction to avoid running X as root
T 1262076291 18<24lucent> IRC is just weird like this I don't see how it fits into a maemo device
T 1262076291 31<RST38bis>30 bottom actually feels better when I try it... hmmm
T 1262076306 31<RST38bis>30 finger selection does work
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T 1262128476 29* 29Topic for #maemo 29set by crashanddie 29at Thu Dec 24 18:43:13 2009
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T 1262128486 18<22pupnik_> javispedro: shift to get : and ; works now!
T 1262128499 18<19Gadgetoid_iMac> SpeedEvil: Their government disagrees, and speak through the mouths of millions of citizens who would probably die if they dared say otherwise
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T 1262195729 29* 29Topic for #maemo 29set by crashanddie 29at Thu Dec 24 18:43:13 2009
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T 1262195747 18<26jebba> i think it must be built with a ton of debugging or something. If I could find their debian/ dir somewhere, i'd rebuild it myself faster, if possible
T 1262195750 18<27lardman> gst-zbar is coming up with an undefined symbol error
T 1262195760 18<26jebba> i was working up a build of it yesterday too, but starting it from scratch is a bitch.
T 1262195767 18<27lardman> even though gst-dmtx. which is identical but for the names, works fine
T 1262195785 18<27timeless> jebba: i thought we had to make the serch engine "customizable"
T 1262195799 18<27timeless> jebba: re config, use about:buildconfig
T 1262195812 18<27timeless> if it doesn't say --enable-debug, it isn't
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T 1262195832 31<RST38bis>30 lardman: doing anything new and exciting with gst?
T 1262195835 18<26jebba> man, there is maemo stuff that always appears. wtf is this mxr thing i'm looking at?? ;)
T 1262195841 18<27timeless> and if you can't find that, please don't waste people's time speculating
T 1262195861 18<27timeless> jebba: it's been in the channel topic since before you joined
T 1262195864 18<26jebba> timeless well about:buildconfig is still way short of a debian/ dir.  Eg. the .list files etc.
T 1262195866 18<26jebba> hahahahha
T 1262195866 21<lardman>21 RST38bis: adding datamatrix and 1D/QR decoding to the pipeline
T 1262195872 31<RST38bis>30 ah
T 1262195877 18<26jebba> timeless: like i said, soooo much more to still check out
T 1262195887 21<lardman>21 RST38bis: not my code, but just packaging it up, unsuccessfully in the case of zbar
T 1262195897 18<27timeless> debian dirs are JUNK
T 1262195897 18<22woglinde> jo lardman
T 1262195901 18<22woglinde> moo rst
T 1262195911 18<27lardman> hi woglinde
T 1262195913 31<RST38bis>30 heh... do give subtitles a try though=)
T 1262195919 31<RST38bis>30 heya woglinde
T 1262195934 18<22woglinde> *g*
T 1262195939 21<lardman>21 RST38bis: what adding them?
T 1262195942 18<22woglinde> yeah subtitles
T 1262195949 18<22woglinde> there is a modul
T 1262195962 21<lardman>21 RST38bis: should work with gst out of the box, just need a different media player app to wrap the pipeline
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T 1262195982 31<RST38bis>30 yea
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T 1262196000 18<26jebba> would be cool to be able to git clone the whole http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/
T 1262196015 18<27timeless> it isn't under vcs
T 1262196020 18<27pupnik> work with what ya got
T 1262196024 18<27timeless> i could probably setup rsync
T 1262196054 18<27timeless> if you're *very* careful, you could write a spider script
T 1262196067 18<27timeless> for each directory: recurse
T 1262196072 18<26jebba> yikes, wouldbe a bit messy
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T 1262196077 18<27timeless> for each file: save x?raw=1 as x
T 1262196085 18<27lardman> if any gstreamer gurus are bored and fancy taking a look at the gst-zbar code please do. Enable extras-devel and "apt-get source gst-zbar"
T 1262196099 18<26jebba> i've set up git pulls of tons from maemo.gitorious
T 1262196112 18<27lardman> undefined symbol: gst_video_filter_get_type
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T 1262196124 18<27timeless> mxr will have all of maemo.gitorious eventually
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T 1262196138 18<27timeless> i just haven't figured out the how
T 1262196168 18<27timeless> the box is a shared resource and doesn't approve of long indexing tasks
T 1262196170 18<24derf> lardman: You didn't stick around in #gstreamer long enough for an answer.
T 1262196171 18<24derf> 11:08:16 < zaheer_> yes
T 1262196171 18<24derf> 11:08:35 < zaheer_> you compiled it against a version of gstreamer that you are not using it with
T 1262196174 18<24derf> 11:09:16 < zaheer_> video filter base class is probably newer than what is in maemo which is where i assume you're using it
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T 1262196187 18<27timeless> so typically indexing needs to be done on another (staging) box
T 1262196198 18<27timeless> and then the result is rsync'd in
T 1262196217 18<27timeless> but my traditional index host is low on disk space
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