[22:01:12] IRC meeting? or so? [22:02:13] yes [22:02:14] now [22:02:18] okay who's here [22:02:21] merlin1991, ping [22:02:24] oops [22:02:26] :D [22:02:53] do we have an agenda? [22:02:57] arcean_, DocScrutinizer, Sc0rpius ping [22:03:04] agenda is [22:03:11] are we here or are we in #maemo-meeting? I assume here? [22:03:14] announce bug # and check if already fixed or not [22:03:17] -*- andre__ just made it to the hotel in time, yay [22:03:17] in here simply [22:03:21] merlin1991, pong [22:03:22] k [22:03:37] <-- lizardo (lizardo@nat/indt/x-wvtvcraeimhkpwnk) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Quit: Leaving) [22:03:41] AYE SIR [22:03:43] I wanted to have this mainly to filter out all the bugs that are already fixed but still on the tracker [22:03:51] merlin1991, you mean from the bugtracker? [22:03:54] yep [22:03:57] * Topic for #maemo-ssu is "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 | STABLE: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 \o/ | bugmeeting: 16.02.2012 21:00 UTC" [22:03:57] * Topic set by merlin1991!~merlin@Maemo/community/cssu/merlin1991 on Mon Feb 13 01:06:53 2012 [22:03:58] ok [22:04:52] first bug in question is bug 11990 [22:04:54] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11990 resize patch against PR1.3 hildon-home [22:05:32] <-- Sicelo (sicelo@unaffiliated/sicelo) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Remote host closed the connection) [22:05:55] arcean_: could you look into that? [22:05:56] errm, well, the complete list (including enhancement requests) would be this actually: https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=Maemo%205%20Community%20SSU [22:06:04] -*- DocScrutinizer idly wonders if mohammad still is anyhow relevant for this project [22:06:21] andre__: we can filter out a lot of the list for now [22:06:24] merlin1991, patch was removed from testing some time ago, introduced a bunch of bugs [22:07:05] what was the outcome back then, wontfix or needswork? [22:07:08] andre__: many thanks [22:07:23] merlin1991: sharing the list that we talk about here is nice so everybody could get an overview and take a look at issues, not only once their numbers have been posted here [22:07:35] andre__: the list is in the /topic [22:07:39] thought everyone knew that [22:07:53] err wut? [22:08:05] | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | [22:08:10] aah, k [22:08:18] eeks. thanks. [22:08:55] arcean_: so whataobut the patch was it ever decided if we fix it? [22:09:25] merlin1991, AFAIK no [22:09:44] do you want to work on it? [22:09:56] merlin1991, those patches are a bit "hackish" [22:09:57] otherwise I think it is a wontfix since the attached patch is faulty [22:10:06] merlin1991, that is another cosmetic change to h-d, lets first finish what is not finished, WONTFIX if you ask me [22:10:09] merlin1991, sure, I can take a look [22:10:36] arcean_: if you want to look into it otherwise I would say wontfix [22:11:14] wtf?! this new login "function" in tracker sucks. How's my browser supposed to keep the auto-texts for each single bug page? [22:11:17] anybody else is also welcome to hack on it, but afaik arcean knows most about h-d :D [22:12:31] well, change the status then to needswork (or whatever appropriate) and lets move on [22:13:12] okay next one is #11993 [22:13:31] bug #11993 [22:13:32] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11993 Mangling email addresses containing accented characters when replying [22:13:52] I don't even know what the current state in cssu is [22:16:09] I guees needinfo [22:16:14] someone with accented characters on his keyboard shoud try it, but cyrillic WMF, should be no difference [22:16:45] --> Sicelo (sicelo@unaffiliated/sicelo) hat #maemo-ssu betreten [22:17:21] next up is bug #12011 [22:17:22] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12011 Tactile feedback when the phone secures itself [22:17:28] I think that one should go into enhancement [22:18:13] if anything it has to be reassigned against the tactile package in extras-devel [22:18:58] 11993 sounds like a different flavour of the xchat DOS attack with rogue string [22:19:22] you think it might be related to gtk? [22:19:27] yep [22:19:42] a guts feeling [22:19:48] too similar [22:19:57] bug #12030 [22:19:58] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12030 Visual artefacts with hildon-menu rotation [22:20:18] is a worksforme for me, please check so I know I'm not the only one [22:20:26] merlin1991: NFC if modest even uses gtk at all [22:21:41] merlin1991, #12030, it's related to lack of blur effect [22:23:26] some people use desaturation instead of the blur [22:23:53] and it seems desaturation is the reason [22:24:25] yep [22:25:16] merlin1991, better close that as INVALID/WONTFIX, report is one year old, the author is not in CC list, the bug report is incomplete [22:25:41] arcean_: do you think it is fixable easily? [22:26:44] merlin1991, it's how it was designed [22:26:59] so a wontfix? [22:26:59] LOL [22:27:11] freemangordon: what do you mean by "author is not in CC list"? [22:27:16] yep [22:27:29] CC List: 0 users (show) [22:27:40] each menu/task manager view zooms out wallpaper [22:27:45] afk 3min [22:27:51] freemangordon, that's a non argument [22:27:59] freemangordon, reporter still receives bugmail as reporter. [22:28:23] aah, ok [22:28:25] if you mean author = software writer that's a different argument though :P [22:28:39] I meant the author [22:28:46] of the bug report [22:29:19] Anyway the bug in question is INVALID for me [22:29:36] arcean_: so is it a wontfix? [22:29:47] merlin1991, I think so [22:29:51] okay [22:30:17] bug #12031 [22:30:18] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12031 Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far [22:30:45] heh, I can reproduce this :) [22:30:57] actually I'm in favour of removing that zoom feature from the codebase, it does nothing (screen is neither panable nor useable in zoomed state) but has bugs [22:31:12] agree [22:32:01] I'll try to do that [22:32:09] assign it to me [22:32:26] freemangordon: it got introduced by mag I think so it should be a matter of tracking down a commit [22:32:39] merlin1991: +1 [22:32:59] arcean_, andre__ thoughts about removing zoom altogether? [22:33:09] well, then it is better to ask MAG to remove it [22:33:30] I don't think he has the time [22:33:52] I repeat my prev question [22:33:59] ok, then I will remove it if everyone agree [22:34:00] -*- DocScrutinizer idly wonders if mohammad still is anyhow relevant for this project [22:34:00] merlin1991, let's remove it [22:34:46] DocScrutinizer, agree, but lets not discuss that now [22:34:53] :nod: [22:35:03] andre__: when I want to assign a bug to a bugtracker user, can I somehow get a list of them? [22:35:11] or do I have to knew the email addreses? [22:35:50] okay next up is bug #12047 [22:35:51] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12047 no more charging battery notification when phone is on [22:35:53] merlin1991, do you have account on garage? [22:35:58] yes [22:36:11] (12031) it's a nice feature, if only it was implemented in a correct and comprehensive way [22:36:18] because it have a nice project/team management interface [22:36:39] so don't nuke it, just exclude it from current releases until it riped some more [22:36:55] could we use it for tasks assigment? [22:37:14] freemangordon: I never thought about that :D [22:37:36] WTF 12047?? [22:37:40] we'd need a cssu projekt in there first though, so I leave that as an exercise for the furute [22:37:58] merlin1991 I think it could be very useful. [22:38:10] yeah [22:38:27] but just like the question of mag currantly out of scope ;) [22:38:49] BS, 12047 INVALID [22:38:50] not sure if I understand the bug in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 at least I cannot reproduce here... [22:38:51] Bug 12031: Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far [22:38:56] merlin1991, you cannot easily get a list, no [22:39:12] andre__: actually I can't reproduce either [22:39:17] merlin1991, but you can type part of a name and it offers you an autocomplete list then [22:39:28] merlin1991, then let's close if two people cannot reproduce. I'm running testing by the way [22:39:37] it should be ctrl-shift-f [22:39:40] got stable and testing in front of me :D [22:39:42] merlin1991, and if there is only one user matching it will take that one automatically [22:39:55] amber charge notification NEVER was enabled when screen on [22:40:00] and I can reproduce it [22:40:05] close INVALID please [22:40:06] DocScrutinizer, agree [22:40:58] yep invalid [22:41:04] tnx [22:41:35] andre__, merlin1991, let me first remove redundant code before closing 12031 [22:41:52] btw andre__ I'm writing a list here as we go and will change the bugs afterwards [22:41:59] freemangordon: will do [22:42:10] ok, afk for a cigarrete [22:42:23] I seem to recall I posted to tmo a hack to edit mce init so it shows charging-ind with screen on [22:42:43] okay next up bug #12052 [22:42:44] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12052 Orientation lock causes incoming call to not display properly [22:42:47] <-- trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Quit: Leaving) [22:42:59] wontfix due to closed source phone app I think [22:43:03] merlin1991, without fixing Qt, it's wontfix [22:43:05] can't comment on that one [22:43:08] ;-) [22:43:15] yeah better not ;) [22:43:16] merlin1991, we can fix it, with properly modifief qt [22:43:49] of course except WFM with may-rotate=no [22:43:53] it's the same problem as with portrait orientation lock and Qt apps [22:44:02] is it really qt that is the problem or is it the phone app that listens to mce directly? [22:44:24] merlin1991, we can override mce in h-d [22:44:29] I'd guess the latter [22:44:33] but Qt should listen to h-d [22:44:53] but the phone still rotates regardless of the lock [22:44:55] in September i have poc [22:44:59] only the buttons are fsckd [22:45:06] *have had [22:45:23] dialer not Qt?? [22:45:42] so is it actually the qt problem or a dialer specific problem? [22:45:50] because if it's qt it should be new, otherwise wontfix [22:45:58] so how's dialer problem related to Qt anyway? [22:46:00] the problem is [22:46:05] --> m0use (~m0use@178.121.224.28) hat #maemo-ssu betreten [22:46:32] every app which requests portrait mode will stay in portrait despite of landscape lock [22:47:24] anybody with -testing who can do a quick check if it really stays? [22:47:38] because I remember that if you turned the phone it "rotated" [22:47:48] maybe another way, we should lock to landscape only those apps which are not working ONLY in portrait [22:48:07] and the problem is with Qt [22:48:17] well, the phone app stays in landscape here [22:48:27] Qt apps in portrait have REQUEST and SUPPORT portrait flags [22:48:37] in landscape both flags are removed [22:48:43] arcean_, leave Qt for a while please, it is another beer [22:48:46] arcean_: I still think the phone app was different [22:48:52] as in not qt related [22:48:56] :nod: [22:49:07] so h-d can check if the window has REQUEST flag, and leave it in portrait ddespite landscape lock [22:49:19] merlin1991: I git that gconf setting gui-may-rotate=false, and dialer set to portrait-always, and it only rotates to landscape when I open kbd slider, and WFM [22:49:32] s/git/got/ [22:49:32] DocScrutinizer meant: merlin1991: I got that gconf setting gui-may-rotate=false, and dialer set to portrait-always, and it only rotates to landscape when I open kbd slider, and WFM [22:49:35] arcean_, your latest h-d leaves phone app in landskape if locked [22:49:53] but one button is missing afaik [22:50:11] depending if it really is in landscape or if it is in portrait (the phone) [22:50:23] freemangordon, nah, i'm not talking about this [22:50:37] but we are :D [22:50:45] yeah, :D [22:51:06] so back to the dialer then, is that missing button something we can actually fix? [22:51:10] what i'm talking about: we SHOULD lock to landscape only those apps which are not requesting protrait mode [22:51:52] so, if dialer is set to run in portrait only, it will show in portrait [22:52:06] it does for me [22:52:08] and the bug will be somehow fixed [22:52:31] well, my dialer is set to portrait only, and stays in landscape when locked [22:52:58] I never use that friggin lock, I got gui-may-rotate=no [22:53:06] freemangordon, yes, it's locked to landscape despite of REQUEST flag [22:53:13] basically I'm asking, confirmed(NEW) or WONTFIX [22:53:15] which should be changed [22:53:38] wontfix is a nogo [22:53:42] new then [22:53:43] arcean_, why? This is the purpose of the lock. [22:54:17] freemangordon, why would you like to lock to landscape app which runs only in portrait? [22:54:24] if you don't want apps to remain in only one direction, don't use the lock. [22:54:27] freemangordon: then the specs for the lock are flawed [22:54:48] lock should be reworked but we try to go over the buglist atm, so please lets get back to that [22:54:53] first rule of CSSU: stay compatible [22:55:07] in my opinion orientation lock should check if the window requests portrait mode or not [22:55:18] so if dialer doesn't obey to lock, you have to implement your lock in a way it doesn't conflict with dialer [22:55:21] DocScrutinizer, without the lock we are compatible, that is a new functionality [22:55:48] But it does not, it behaves as if the keyboard is open [22:55:59] there are quite a few more bugs, can we move the whole discussion to a later point like tomorrow? [22:56:04] and that is ok for me [22:56:05] freemangordon: where does CSSU "quality is paramount importance" say "new functionality may have bugs" [22:56:07] ? [22:56:11] sorry, I really got to go now, but I'll check the backlog :-( [22:56:17] bb andre__ [22:56:23] cya [22:56:38] I hoped you'd be still around when the security bugs come up you made [22:56:55] merlin1991, I would say "confirmed" [22:57:11] k confirmed, next up bug #12056 [22:57:12] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12056 modest cant't write new messages with Nokia Messaging [22:57:20] wasn't nokia messaging closed? [22:57:28] -*- merlin1991 darkly remembers something [22:57:33] but I never used nokia messaging [22:58:01] NFC what is that [22:58:16] close as WUT????? [22:58:24] ;-) [22:58:58] nobody who heard of it? :D [22:59:03] needinfo / wut then [22:59:05] I remember Sc0rpius saying it's closed [22:59:27] btw anybody got an email of Sc0rpius [22:59:35] he's online all the time but never responds [23:00:00] npe [23:00:10] he has an account on TMO, can't remember it though [23:00:45] ~seen Sc0rpius [23:00:59] sc0rpius is currently on #maemo (17h 12m 57s) #maemo-ssu (17h 12m 57s), last said: 'well /sbin should be in root's PATH'. [23:01:16] merlin1991, needinfo and lets move on [23:01:21] okay next up then bug #12092 [23:01:22] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12092 Applications list rotates to portrait with forced rotation after installing an application [23:01:36] hmm, I should ask Tim to implement a $when for "last said:" [23:02:32] -*- merlin1991 tries to reproduce [23:03:23] -*- merlin1991 also shakes fist @ ham, speed up [23:03:32] -*- DocScrutinizer tries to understand [23:03:45] BTW why is HAM so slow? [23:03:55] nfc [23:04:02] it's not much slower than apt itself [23:04:09] it is [23:04:47] building that immense list of icons+description takes a while I guess [23:05:09] hm can't reproduce the bug [23:05:09] and it's redoing this every moment [23:05:24] CANT-DUPLICATE then [23:05:34] no, FIXED [23:05:41] mhm [23:05:42] I'd say worksforme [23:05:43] whatever [23:05:47] WFM [23:05:49] yeah [23:05:53] but don't ask me for the commit :) [23:06:10] pff, I have a hard time to understand the bug [23:06:40] no, FIXED, there was a lot of crap in h-d re orientations [23:06:52] ask arcean_ if don't trust me :D [23:07:17] since we don't know the commit I'd call it a worksforme with a comment of should have been fix in h-d at some point [23:07:19] freemangordon, i have never heard about #12092 :D [23:08:12] okay bug #12125 [23:08:14] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12125 SPB Brain Evolution fails to start [23:08:17] I mean that algorithm in ...renderer... for decision whether to rotate or not had flaws in early portrait days. [23:08:22] haha [23:08:24] invalid wtf is even spb brainevolution?? [23:08:57] merlin1991, it's related to the first attempt to update Qt in testing [23:08:58] is that Qt? [23:09:26] so I guess I'll check if it works now and make it an worksforme [23:09:34] freemangordon: trust *YOU*??! you're kidding ;-P [23:09:44] :D [23:10:12] merlin1991, there was several fixes in Qt for segfault on app start [23:10:34] I'll check with the app in question [23:10:37] next up bug #12141 [23:10:38] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12141 CSSU Not enough space problem false positive [23:10:56] so if it is Qt, mark it as fixed [23:10:56] hmm, seems not Qt [23:10:59] my brain reached top of evolutionary state [23:11:07] so close as WTF? [23:11:18] Pali? [23:11:48] I think his latest HAM commits should fix that [23:11:48] not here :/ [23:11:58] okay will ask pali then [23:12:03] yeah, let me check on gitorious [23:13:07] okay now bug #12145 [23:13:08] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12145 Problem with HomeScreen Selector Widget 0.1-3 [23:14:01] please rename 12141, the title is complete BS [23:14:11] will do [23:14:22] merlin1991, https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/0c865a3434716e6ec3a739ae74a5660e86cbd20f [23:14:26] though, on second thought, HAMs error msg is BS [23:14:37] hehe [23:15:05] make that "HAM error says "not enough space..." - BS!! [23:15:18] noted down [23:15:21] whatabout 12145? [23:15:23] I love that function "annoy_user_with_arbitrary_details" [23:15:31] for me that sounds like an invalid, go pester the author [23:15:50] freemangordon: ham has quite some interesting names all over the code [23:15:51] yeah, invalid [23:15:55] just think of red pill mode :D [23:16:37] :nod: [23:16:38] <-- _rd_ (~rd@p57B495AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:16:45] was that a nod for invalid? [23:16:49] what's that 12145? [23:16:55] <-- Free-MG (~test@p4FFE7610.dip.t-dialin.net) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Quit: Verlassend) [23:17:18] nod for red-pill [23:17:40] ah [23:17:46] merlin1991, dont close it, better make it needinfo and ask the reporter if he can reproduce it with latest CSSU [23:17:52] okay [23:17:58] I don't even know what your "invalid" was meant for [23:18:06] ofc bug #12145 [23:18:12] we can close it on next session if no feedback [23:18:14] I don't get 12145 [23:18:46] DocScrutinizer, some widget locks hildon-home [23:19:01] so that's the fault of whom? [23:19:14] widgets are from hell, we all know [23:19:25] indeed [23:19:35] next up: bug #12149 [23:19:36] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12149 Email widget shows "no unreaded items" [23:19:38] could be hildon-home, as the reporter says it cannot reproduce it with stock one [23:19:44] *he [23:20:40] <-- NIN101 (~NIN@206.253.166.69) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Remote host closed the connection) [23:20:46] hmm [23:21:01] so just keep it open? [23:21:02] that one I can check if it still valid and if yes try to reach Sc0rpius about it (might be fixed with the modest arm bs fix we have in place now) [23:21:25] yeah, leave it open [23:21:52] and yes, +1 for this on 12149 [23:22:13] I'm not even using modest ;-) [23:22:21] duh, actually I do [23:22:49] but my modest widget got nuked some decades ago (apt-get autoremove ;-P) [23:22:54] hehe [23:23:15] this a still lingering on annoyance of CSSU btw [23:23:36] yeah [23:23:36] I reinstalled my rtcom-SIP.-support or whatever it's called a week ago [23:23:42] hmm, WFM [23:23:43] the 94th time [23:24:10] DocScrutinizer: you should create an emtpy package that depends on rtcom.. and install it manually [23:24:14] dirty fix :D [23:24:21] yeah, rtcom-sip is a serious problem [23:24:22] pff [23:24:43] arcean_: actually it's autoremove / wtfremove without even calling autoremove [23:24:52] <-- mase76 (~mase76@p5DD3A320.dip.t-dialin.net) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Quit: Ex-Chat) [23:24:53] I tried to reproduce but didn't manage [23:24:53] merlin1991, I know :) [23:25:01] okay bug #12153 [23:25:03] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12153 typing contact names when on desktop too fast results in missing second character in contacts application [23:25:56] (rtcom-sip) we need an apt wizard for that, who can read thru the database or whatever, to analze the issue [23:26:08] I dunno any such person [23:26:34] I know no apt wizzard either [23:26:35] merlin1991, INVALID [23:26:35] don't type too fast [23:26:42] about 12153 [23:26:55] it's actually the button you press the momend the contacts app opens [23:27:04] s/momend/moment/ [23:27:05] merlin1991 meant: it's actually the button you press the moment the contacts app opens [23:27:09] freemangordon: WONTFIX [23:27:15] so yeah not invalid but wontfix [23:27:37] is contacts closed? [23:27:37] race, we can to so much [23:27:53] I think so [23:27:54] yep, afaik [23:27:57] yes, closed [23:28:23] well we *could* fix that in H-* [23:28:32] ok [23:28:33] H-H, H-D [23:28:41] next up bug #12170 [23:28:42] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12170 Reading tree node uncollapses node's subtree [23:28:48] just delay the dbus msg [23:29:24] wait a second [23:30:28] hildon sends dbus with 1st char to contacts. contacts-dbus-proxy realizes contacts app not launched and does so. meanwhile hildon sends a second msg with 2nd char, this msg goes to dev/null [23:30:42] <-- FireFly (~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Changing host) [23:30:42] --> FireFly (~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly) hat #maemo-ssu betreten [23:30:50] nfc how to fix that [23:31:09] ok, next [23:31:12] wontfix and next [23:31:23] -*- DocScrutinizer yawns [23:31:28] yep I think this one if reproduceable is one for Sc0rpius [23:31:40] merlin1991, wait [23:31:52] all gibberish to me [23:31:58] context????? [23:32:13] I meant the bug #12170 [23:32:25] -*- DocScrutinizer too [23:32:42] --> MohammadAG_ (~mohammada@62.219.120.20) hat #maemo-ssu betreten [23:32:51] o hai there [23:32:52] UGH modest again [23:33:06] Hai, bouncer down, again [23:33:11] Or... [23:33:20] bouncer is still up afaik [23:33:20] OOOH it lives [23:33:28] Really? [23:33:32] yep your bouncer is still alive [23:33:40] [23:33:23] test [23:33:40] [23:33:23] * MohammadAG is away: "Auto away at Wed Feb 15 21:06:12 2012" [23:33:44] I cant connect to it [23:33:45] merlin1991, I cannot reproduce 12170 here [23:33:51] Oh well [23:34:08] freemangordon: worksforme then? [23:34:18] :-x for me [23:34:35] yep. At least as I understand the bug report [23:34:45] >>check mcenfioptionstreeview<< WUT??? [23:34:51] okay will close with worksforme and a notice about repopen [23:35:01] DocScrutinizer: the bugreport is back form the time when tree view wasn't translated [23:35:02] ok [23:35:20] ok [23:35:42] modest bugs should all get a "please recheck with recent release!" [23:35:57] --> MohammadAG__ (~mohammada@2.54.254.131) hat #maemo-ssu betreten [23:36:25] okay bug #12183 [23:36:25] Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12183 CSSU Camera has messed up detection and settings [23:36:40] :-X !!! [23:36:49] DocScrutinizer: ?? [23:36:56] CSSU camera?! [23:37:02] camera-ui :D [23:37:10]